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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
To: "Huangming (Mark)" <huangming23@huawei.com>
Cc: Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>,
	Ming Huang <heyi.guo@linaro.org>,
	linaro-uefi <linaro-uefi@lists.linaro.org>,
	 "edk2-devel@lists.01.org" <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>,
	Graeme Gregory <graeme.gregory@linaro.org>,
	guoheyi@huawei.com,  wanghuiqiang <wanghuiqiang@huawei.com>,
	Jason Zhang <zhangjinsong2@huawei.com>,
	Mengfanrong <mengfanrong@huawei.com>,
	waip23@126.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH edk2-platforms v1 13/14] Hisilicon/Library: Add OsBootLib
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 10:19:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKv+Gu9Ns+ZdWP3YkjkOXnY7LLQD+-qiyoYtnS6Us+Rjg+pANw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3f9a89b8-7558-f9a3-a262-59860b2e98a9@huawei.com>

On 29 January 2018 at 08:55, Huangming (Mark) <huangming23@huawei.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 2018/1/27 18:37, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>> On 27 January 2018 at 01:47, Huangming (Mark) <huangming23@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2018/1/23 18:23, Leif Lindholm wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:01:42PM +0800, Ming Huang wrote:
>>>>> OsBootLib can create OS option after upgrade firmware.
>>>>
>>>> I will respond more strongly that Ard did:
>>>>
>>>> I have seen functionality like this implemented in publicly available
>>>> systems - laptops, desktops.
>>>> Without exception, they end up in bug reports saying "my system
>>>> refuses to boot after installation/upgrade".
>>>> Without exception, they add to existing negative perceptions of UEFI
>>>> in general in certain market spaces.
>>>>
>>>> Presumably this is trying to address a real problem you have faced.
>>>> Please bring this issue to the table for discussion, so that we can
>>>> agree on an appropriate way of resolving it.
>>>>
>>>> Regardless, this code will not be included in 18.02.
>>>>
>>>> /
>>>>     Leif
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>
>>> The problem is that OS boot option is lost after upgrade firmware.
>>
>> Why is that? There is no need to clear the variable store if you
>> upgrade the executable image. If you fix this issue, you don't need
>> this patch.
>>
>
> Ok, retaining the variable store can solve the problem also.
> But retaining the variable store have some issues, like,if the struct stored in
> variable is different between new firmware and old firmware, this situation may cause
> a problem.
>

Yes. That means you have to design it with forward compatibility in
mind, i.e., add reserved fields that default to zero, and use zero as
a reasonable default when you add new fields.

> If OsBootLib is not needed for community, It will use for internal project in hisilicon.
>

Well, that is up to you to decide. But I highly recommend not
hardcoding this kind of knowledge into the firmware to begin with.

>
>>> It is inconvenient for using. OsBootLib can help this.
>>>
>>> OsBootLib retain the options installed by OS, and create OS boot option
>>> after upgrade firmware if grub file is existed in EFI partition and in mUefiOsBootFiles,
>>> and delete redundant options in the same GPT.
>>>
>>
>> .
>>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> Ming
>


  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-29 10:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-18 15:01 [PATCH edk2-platforms v1 00/14] Improve D0x platforms and bug fix Ming Huang
2018-01-18 15:01 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms v1 01/14] Hisilicon/D05: Add PPTT support Ming Huang
2018-01-20 10:16   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-22  9:16     ` Huangming (Mark)
2018-01-23  6:00     ` Huangming (Mark)
2018-01-22 13:53   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-01-22 14:15     ` Leif Lindholm
2018-01-24 13:49     ` graeme.gregory
2018-01-23 21:29   ` Jeremy Linton
2018-01-24  7:57     ` Huangming (Mark)
2018-01-25  5:56     ` Huangming (Mark)
2018-01-25 15:27       ` Jeremy Linton
2018-01-18 15:01 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms v1 02/14] Hisilicon D03/D05:Switch to Generic BDS driver Ming Huang
2018-01-20 10:27   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-22 18:38   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-01-23  6:03     ` Huangming (Mark)
2018-01-18 15:01 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms v1 03/14] Hisilicon D03/D05: Optimize the feature of BMC set boot option Ming Huang
2018-01-20 10:41   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-23  8:28     ` Huangming (Mark)
2018-01-23 10:28   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-01-23 10:51     ` Huangming (Mark)
2018-01-18 15:01 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms v1 04/14] Hisilicon D03/D05: Add capsule upgrade support Ming Huang
2018-01-20 10:50   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-23  8:53     ` Huangming (Mark)
2018-01-23  9:33       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-24 11:10     ` Huangming (Mark)
2018-01-24 11:21       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-25  0:53         ` Huangming (Mark)
2018-01-23 14:06   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-01-18 15:01 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms v1 05/14] Hisilicon D03/D05: Open SasPlatform source code Ming Huang
2018-01-20 10:57   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-23 11:01     ` Huangming (Mark)
2018-01-23 14:04   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-01-18 15:01 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms v1 06/14] Hisilicon D03/D05: Open SnpPlatform " Ming Huang
2018-01-20 11:00   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-23 11:01     ` Huangming (Mark)
2018-01-23 14:07   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-01-24 12:31     ` Huangming (Mark)
2018-01-24 13:47       ` Leif Lindholm
2018-01-18 15:01 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms v1 07/14] Hisilicon/Smbios: modify type 4 Ming Huang
2018-01-20 11:01   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-23 14:15   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-01-18 15:01 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms v1 08/14] Hisilicon/PCIe: Disable PCIe ASPM Ming Huang
2018-01-20 11:04   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-18 15:01 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms v1 09/14] Hisilicon/D05: Replace SP805Watchdog by WatchdogTimer driver Ming Huang
2018-01-20 11:05   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-23 14:21   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-01-18 15:01 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms v1 10/14] Hisilicon/D03: " Ming Huang
2018-01-20 11:05   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-23 14:21   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-01-18 15:01 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms v1 11/14] Hisilicon/D05/ACPI: Add ITS PXM Ming Huang
2018-01-20 11:06   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-18 15:01 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms v1 12/14] Hisilicon/D05/ACPI: Add Pcie, HNS and SAS PXM Ming Huang
2018-01-20 11:08   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-18 15:01 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms v1 13/14] Hisilicon/Library: Add OsBootLib Ming Huang
2018-01-20 11:11   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-23 10:23   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-01-27  1:47     ` Huangming (Mark)
2018-01-27 10:37       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-29  8:55         ` Huangming (Mark)
2018-01-29 10:19           ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2018-01-29 11:16       ` Leif Lindholm
2018-02-07 21:16         ` Peter Jones
2018-02-11  6:03           ` Huangming (Mark)
2018-02-26  1:12           ` Guo Heyi
2018-01-18 15:01 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms v1 14/14] Hisilicon D03/D05: Update firmware version to 18.02 Ming Huang
2018-01-20 11:11   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-23 10:18   ` Leif Lindholm
2018-01-24  1:17     ` Huangming (Mark)
2018-01-24  7:54       ` Leif Lindholm
2018-01-22 13:26 ` [PATCH edk2-platforms v1 00/14] Improve D0x platforms and bug fix Leif Lindholm
2018-01-23 14:24 ` Leif Lindholm

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