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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
To: "Zeng, Star" <star.zeng@intel.com>
Cc: edk2-devel-01 <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 4/4] MdeModulePkg EhciDxe: Use common buffer for AsyncInterruptTransfer
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 16:14:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKv+Gu9nPfKBODt5jTdzpPFL3oz=yfRKxhSahW+aUUZZSbEEFQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57b70aa4-f2c7-02e4-4eb5-43b0a65ba24c@intel.com>

On 7 November 2018 at 16:00, Zeng, Star <star.zeng@intel.com> wrote:
> On 2018/11/6 22:37, Zeng, Star wrote:
>>
>> On 2018/11/6 17:49, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>>
>>> On 31 October 2018 at 05:38, Zeng, Star <star.zeng@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good feedback.
>>>>
>>>> On 2018/10/30 20:50, Leif Lindholm wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 09:39:24AM -0300, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (add back the list)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oi! Go back on holiday!
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30 October 2018 at 09:07, Cohen, Eugene <eugene@hp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has this patch been tested on a system that does not have coherent
>>>>>>> DMA?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not clear that this change would actually be faster on a system
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> type since using common buffers imply access to uncached memory.
>>>>>>> Depending
>>>>>>> on the access patterns the uncached memory access could be more time
>>>>>>> consuming than cache maintenance operations.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The change/idea was based on the statement below.
>>>>    ///
>>>>    /// Provides both read and write access to system memory by both the
>>>> processor and a
>>>>    /// bus master. The buffer is coherent from both the processor's and
>>>> the
>>>> bus master's point of view.
>>>>    ///
>>>>    EfiPciIoOperationBusMasterCommonBuffer,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for raising case about uncached memory access. But after checking
>>>> the
>>>> code, for Intel VTd case
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/blob/master/IntelSiliconPkg/Feature/VTd/IntelVTdDxe/BmDma.c#L460
>>>> (or no IOMMU case
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/blob/master/MdeModulePkg/Bus/Pci/PciHostBridgeDxe/PciRootBridgeIo.c#L1567),
>>>> the common buffer is just normal memory buffer.
>>>> If someone can help do some test/collect some data on a system using
>>>> common
>>>> buffers imply access to uncached memory, that will be great.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK, so first of all, can anyone explain to me under which
>>> circumstances interrupt transfers are a bottleneck? I'd assume that
>>> anything throughput bound would use bulk endpoints.
>>>
>>> Also, since the Map/Unmap calls are only costly when using an IOMMU,
>>> could we simply revert to the old behavior if mIoMmu == NULL?
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't had time to look at these patches yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with Eugene's concern: the directional DMA routines are much
>>>>>> more performant on implementations with non-coherent DMA, and so
>>>>>> common buffers should be avoided unless we are dealing with data
>>>>>> structures that are truly shared between the CPU and the device.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since this is obviously not the case here, could we please have some
>>>>>> numbers about the performance improvement we are talking about here?
>>>>>> Would it be possible to improve the IOMMU handling code instead?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We collected the data below on a platform with release image and Intel
>>>> VTd
>>>> enabled.
>>>>
>>>> The image size of EhciDxe or XhciDxe can reduce about 120+ bytes.
>>>>
>>>> EHCI without the patch:
>>>> ==[ Cumulative ]========
>>>> (Times in microsec.)     Cumulative   Average     Shortest    Longest
>>>>     Name         Count     Duration    Duration    Duration    Duration
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> S0000B00D1DF0        446        2150           4           2         963
>>>>
>>>> EHCI with the patch:
>>>> ==[ Cumulative ]========
>>>> (Times in microsec.)     Cumulative   Average     Shortest    Longest
>>>>     Name         Count     Duration    Duration    Duration    Duration
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> S0000B00D1DF0        270         742           2           2          41
>>>>
>>>> XHCI without the patch:
>>>> ==[ Cumulative ]========
>>>> (Times in microsec.)     Cumulative   Average     Shortest    Longest
>>>>     Name         Count     Duration    Duration    Duration    Duration
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> S0000B00D14F0        215         603           2           2          52
>>>>
>>>> XHCI with the patch:
>>>> ==[ Cumulative ]========
>>>> (Times in microsec.)     Cumulative   Average     Shortest    Longest
>>>>     Name         Count     Duration    Duration    Duration    Duration
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> S0000B00D14F0         95         294           3           2          52
>>>>
>>>> I believe the performance data really depends on
>>>> 1. How many AsyncInterruptTransfer handlers (the number of USB keyboard
>>>> and/or USB bluetooth keyboard?)
>>>> 2. Data size (for flushing data from PCI controller specific address to
>>>> mapped system memory address *in original code*)
>>>> 3. The performance of IoMmu->SetAttribute (for example, the SetAttribute
>>>> operation on Intel VTd engine caused by the unmap and map for flushing
>>>> data
>>>> *in original code*, the SetAttribute operation on IntelVTd engine will
>>>> involve FlushPageTableMemory, InvalidatePageEntry and etc)
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK, so there is room for improvement here: there is no reason the
>>> IOMMU driver couldn't cache mappings, or do some other optimizations
>>> that would make mapping the same memory repeatedly less costly.
>>
>>
>> The unmap/map with IOMMU will direct to SetAttribute that will
>> disallow/allow DMA memory access. The IOMMU driver is hard to predict the
>> sequence of unmap/map operations. Do you have more detail about the
>> optimizations?
>>
>> Could you take a try with the patch on the platform for the case you and
>> Eugene mentioned?
>>
>> Anyway, I am going to revert the patches (3/4 and 4/4, since 1/4 and 2/4
>> have no functionality impact) since the time point is a little sensitive as
>> it is near edk2-stable201811.
>
>
> I have reverted the patch 3/4 and 4/4 at
> https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/compare/1ed6498...d98fc9a, and we can
> continue the discussion.
>

Thanks Star


  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-07 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-26 13:41 [PATCH V3 0/4] Remove unnecessary Map/Unmap in XhciDxe/EhciDxe for AsyncInterruptTransfer Star Zeng
2018-10-26 13:41 ` [PATCH V3 1/4] MdeModulePkg XhciDxe: Extract new XhciInsertAsyncIntTransfer function Star Zeng
2018-10-26 13:41 ` [PATCH V3 2/4] MdeModulePkg EhciDxe: Extract new EhciInsertAsyncIntTransfer function Star Zeng
2018-10-26 13:41 ` [PATCH V3 3/4] MdeModulePkg XhciDxe: Use common buffer for AsyncInterruptTransfer Star Zeng
2018-10-27  7:47   ` Wu, Hao A
2018-10-26 13:41 ` [PATCH V3 4/4] MdeModulePkg EhciDxe: " Star Zeng
     [not found]   ` <CS1PR8401MB1189428C2915107C583C0A42B4CC0@CS1PR8401MB1189.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2018-10-30 12:39     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-30 12:50       ` Leif Lindholm
2018-10-31  4:38         ` Zeng, Star
2018-10-31 12:08           ` Leif Lindholm
2018-11-01  1:12             ` Zeng, Star
2018-11-01 10:32               ` Leif Lindholm
2018-11-06  9:49           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-11-06 14:37             ` Zeng, Star
2018-11-07 15:00               ` Zeng, Star
2018-11-07 15:14                 ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2018-10-28 13:35 ` [PATCH V3 0/4] Remove unnecessary Map/Unmap in XhciDxe/EhciDxe " Zeng, Star
2018-10-29  2:19 ` Ni, Ruiyu

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