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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
To: Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com>,
	Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>
Cc: "edk2-devel@lists.01.org" <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>,
	"Gao, Liming" <liming.gao@intel.com>,
	 "Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/4] MdePkg/BaseMemoryLibOptDxe ARM|AARCH64: disallow use in SEC & PEI phases
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 21:34:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKv+Gu_c9WGAZm6X2LCTv-KyO=273uFh8m=gbmFjTdg+kzoB_g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bacc1d44-ddfa-9d80-2743-76e0cf22208a@arm.com>

On 5 April 2017 at 21:12, Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 09/09/2016 09:00 AM, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>
>> The new accelerated ARM and AARCH64 implementations take advantage of
>> features that are only available when the MMU and Dcache are on. So
>> restrict the use of this library to the DXE phase or later.
>
>
> I don't think this is sufficient because DC ZVA doesn't work against device
> memory/etc. That means that users have to somehow know the page/etc
> attributes of memory regions before they call SetMemXX() on them.
>

Yes. I literally found this out myself yesterday. Note that this
applies equally to unaligned accesses.


> I think this is a problem because nowhere in the UEFI specs do I see such
> restrictions on those memory operations.
>

Using device attributes for memory is something we should ban for
AArch64 in the spec.

> For a specific problematic example, the LcdGraphicsOutputBlt.c uses it for
> BltVideoFill() and the target of that is likely not regular cached video
> memory.
>

Those drivers should be using EFI_MEMORY_WC not EFI_MEMORY_UC for the
VRAM mapping. Note that EFI_MEMORY_UC is nGnRnE which is unnecessarily
restrictive.

I agree there is a general issue here which we should address by
tightening the spec. I don't see a lot of value in avoiding DC ZVA and
unaligned accesses altogether, I'd rather fix the code instead.

Thanks,
Ard.


  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-05 20:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-09 14:00 [PATCH v5 0/4] MdePkg: add ARM/AARCH64 support to BaseMemoryLib Ard Biesheuvel
2016-09-09 14:00 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] MdePkg/BaseMemoryLib: widen aligned accesses to 32 or 64 bits Ard Biesheuvel
2016-09-09 14:00 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] MdePkg/BaseMemoryLibOptDxe: add accelerated ARM routines Ard Biesheuvel
2016-09-09 14:00 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] MdePkg/BaseMemoryLibOptDxe: add accelerated AARCH64 routines Ard Biesheuvel
2016-09-09 14:00 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] MdePkg/BaseMemoryLibOptDxe ARM|AARCH64: disallow use in SEC & PEI phases Ard Biesheuvel
2016-09-13 14:49   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-09-13 15:00     ` Gao, Liming
2017-04-05 20:12   ` Jeremy Linton
2017-04-05 20:34     ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2017-04-05 21:28       ` Jeremy Linton
2017-04-05 21:55         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-04-06  9:35           ` Leif Lindholm
2017-04-06  9:43             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-04-06 10:16               ` Leif Lindholm

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