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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
To: Evan Lloyd <Evan.Lloyd@arm.com>
Cc: "edk2-devel@lists.01.org" <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>,
	Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>,
	 Matteo Carlini <Matteo.Carlini@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/19] ArmPlatformPkg: PL111 and HDLCD: add const qualifier
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 20:54:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKv+Gu_f1iVqfLpL1AJF8MBztwGU613MHZZ-uGFRpS8ausbieA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM4PR0801MB1444732297CCF6E081DB165A8B3D0@AM4PR0801MB1444.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>

On 5 December 2017 at 20:35, Evan Lloyd <Evan.Lloyd@arm.com> wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ard Biesheuvel [mailto:ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org]
>> Sent: 01 December 2017 17:32
>> To: Evan Lloyd <Evan.Lloyd@arm.com>
>> Cc: edk2-devel@lists.01.org; ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org@arm.com
>> <"ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org"@arm.com>;
>> leif.lindholm@linaro.org@arm.com <"leif.lindholm@linaro.org"@arm.com>;
>> Matteo.Carlini@arm.com@arm.com
>> <"Matteo.Carlini@arm.com"@arm.com>; nd@arm.com@arm.com
>> <"nd@arm.com"@arm.com>
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/19] ArmPlatformPkg: PL111 and HDLCD: add const
>> qualifier
>>
>> On 1 December 2017 at 16:17, Evan Lloyd <Evan.Lloyd@arm.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Ard.
>> > Response inline below
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Ard Biesheuvel [mailto:ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org]
>> >> Sent: 12 October 2017 20:47
>> >> To: Evan Lloyd <Evan.Lloyd@arm.com>
>> >> Cc: edk2-devel@lists.01.org; "ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org"@arm.com;
>> >> "leif.lindholm@linaro.org"@arm.com;
>> >> "Matteo.Carlini@arm.com"@arm.com; "nd@arm.com"@arm.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/19] ArmPlatformPkg: PL111 and HDLCD: add
>> const
>> >> qualifier
>> >>
>> >> On 26 September 2017 at 21:15,  <evan.lloyd@arm.com> wrote:
>> >> > From: Girish Pathak <girish.pathak@arm.com>
>> >> >
>> >> > This change adds some STATIC and CONST qualifiers (mainly to
>> >> > arguments of  functions) in PL111 and HdLcd modules.
>> >> >
>> >> > It doesn't add or modify any functionality.
>> >> >
>> >> > Contributed-under: TianoCore Contribution Agreement 1.1
>> >> > Signed-off-by: Girish Pathak <girish.pathak@arm.com>
>> >> > Signed-off-by: Evan Lloyd <evan.lloyd@arm.com>
>> >> > ---
>> >> >
>> >>
>> ArmPlatformPkg/ArmVExpressPkg/Library/HdLcdArmVExpressLib/HdLcdAr
>> >> mVExpress.c       | 34 ++++++++++----------
>> >> >
>> >>
>> ArmPlatformPkg/ArmVExpressPkg/Library/PL111LcdArmVExpressLib/PL11
>> >> 1LcdArmVExpress.c | 34 ++++++++++----------
>> >> >  ArmPlatformPkg/Drivers/LcdGraphicsOutputDxe/HdLcd.c
>> >> |  4 +--
>> >> >  ArmPlatformPkg/Drivers/LcdGraphicsOutputDxe/PL111Lcd.c
>> >> |  4 +--
>> >> >  4 files changed, 38 insertions(+), 38 deletions(-)
>> >> >
>> >> > diff --git
>> >> >
>> >>
>> a/ArmPlatformPkg/ArmVExpressPkg/Library/HdLcdArmVExpressLib/HdLcd
>> >> ArmVE
>> >> > xpress.c
>> >> >
>> >>
>> b/ArmPlatformPkg/ArmVExpressPkg/Library/HdLcdArmVExpressLib/HdLcd
>> >> ArmVE
>> >> > xpress.c index
>> >> >
>> >>
>> cfe3259d3c737de240350e8c3eab867b80c40948..b9859a56988f7e5be0ad
>> >> baa49048
>> >> > a683fe586bfe 100644
>> >> > ---
>> >> >
>> >>
>> a/ArmPlatformPkg/ArmVExpressPkg/Library/HdLcdArmVExpressLib/HdLcd
>> >> ArmVE
>> >> > xpress.c
>> >> > +++
>> >>
>> b/ArmPlatformPkg/ArmVExpressPkg/Library/HdLcdArmVExpressLib/HdLcd
>> >> A
>> >> > +++ rmVExpress.c
>> >> > @@ -46,7 +46,7 @@ typedef struct {
>> >> >
>> >> >  /** The display modes supported by the platform.
>> >> >  **/
>> >> > -LCD_RESOLUTION mResolutions[] = {
>> >> > +STATIC CONST LCD_RESOLUTION mResolutions[] = {
>> >> >    { // Mode 0 : VGA : 640 x 480 x 24 bpp
>> >> >      VGA, VGA_H_RES_PIXELS, VGA_V_RES_PIXELS,
>> >> LCD_BITS_PER_PIXEL_24,
>> >> >      VGA_OSC_FREQUENCY,
>> >> > @@ -144,8 +144,8 @@ LcdPlatformInitializeDisplay (  **/  EFI_STATUS
>> >> > LcdPlatformGetVram (
>> >> > -  OUT EFI_PHYSICAL_ADDRESS*  VramBaseAddress,
>> >> > -  OUT UINTN*                 VramSize
>> >> > +  OUT EFI_PHYSICAL_ADDRESS * CONST  VramBaseAddress,
>> >> > +  OUT UINTN * CONST                 VramSize
>> >>
>> >> What is the point of this CONST (and all the other occurrences in
>> >> this patch)
>> >>
>> >> In all cases [AFAICT] the CONST applies to the argument itself, not
>> >> to the object it points to, which means the variable is CONST in the
>> >> scope of the function, but can still be dereferenced to assign the OUT
>> value.
>> >>
>> >> This means your change is technically correct, but it is extremely
>> >> unidiomatic for EDK2, so an explanation why this driver needs this
>> >> would be highly appreciated.
>> >>
>> > [[Evan Lloyd]] The style is explicitly sanctioned by the Edk2 CCS §
>> > 5.6.2.4.2 " Constant pointer to variable: UINTN * CONST ConstPointer;
>> >     ConstPointer is a constant pointer to a variable UINTN."
>> >
>>
>> That paragraph is not about function prototypes, but about constant
>> pointers in general.
>>
>> > The real benefit is that it clearly identifies the pointer as not changed in
>> the function.
>> > In this specific instance that also makes it obvious that the OUT
>> parameters are not array bases, just pointers to individual values.
>> >
>> > On a broader note - why would you ever not have a const where
>> something is not modified?
>> >
>> > As another view, the "unidiomatic for EDK2" argument implies you have a
>> very high opinion of the existing ArmPlatformPkg code quality.
>> > The  "we have always done it that way" argument does not encourage
>> quality improvements.
>> >
>>
>> This may all be true. But the fact remains that 99% of the EDK2 code does
>> not constify its function parameters, and I was simply asking why we should
>> deviate from that in this driver.
> [[Evan Lloyd]] And the simple answer is that it is good practice, providing cleaner, clearer, safer code.  As support for that viewpoint: the CCS references MISRA-C (strangely without making use of the reference, but ...), and MISRA-C has, for example:
> "Rule 8.13: A pointer should point to a const qualified type where possible"
>

Should *point to* which means

UINTN CONST *Var

not

UINTN * CONST Var

as you are proposing, so this reference is completely irrelevant.

> (NOTE: I don't think it realistic to move edk2 to MISRA-C rules, but they do provide a useful guide to safer practice.)
>

Well, for the firmware in my ABS brake system, yes, but for higher
level stuff it is overly restrictive imo.

> A further point is that it certainly does no harm, and there is negligible benefit and some cost to reducing the quality of tested code.
>

I have read that sentence a couple of times, and I don't understand
what you are trying to say here - sorry. Could you rephrase that?

> I am also impelled to ask: if 99% of the code is so superb, why are there so many commits from Ard Biesheuvel?  (Please note attempt at ironic humour here.)
>

No amount of drugs or alcohol could ever elicit such a statement from
me. I was merely pointing out that constifying function arguments is
very uncommon, in any project I am involved in. (EDK2, Linux, Qemu)

I agree that it may help catch programming errors, but beyond that, I
think the value is limited. I won't object to new code that does it,
but changing existing code is just churn imo.


  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-05 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-26 20:15 [PATCH 00/19] ArmPlatformPkg: Update GOP evan.lloyd
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 01/19] ArmPlatformPkg: Tidy LcdGraphicsOutputDxe code: Coding standard evan.lloyd
2017-10-12 18:45   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 02/19] ArmPlatformPkg: Tidy LcdGraphicsOutputDxe code: Added comments evan.lloyd
2017-10-12 19:02   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-12-05 18:55     ` Evan Lloyd
2017-12-05 19:58       ` Leif Lindholm
2017-12-05 22:06         ` Evan Lloyd
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 03/19] ArmPlatformPkg: PL111 and HDLCD: add const qualifier evan.lloyd
2017-10-12 19:07   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-10-12 19:47   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-01 16:17     ` Evan Lloyd
2017-12-01 17:31       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-05 20:35         ` Evan Lloyd
2017-12-05 20:54           ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 04/19] ArmPlatformPkg: LcdGraphicsOurputDxe: Add debug asserts evan.lloyd
2017-10-12 19:32   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-10-13  7:33   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-01 16:33     ` Evan Lloyd
2017-12-01 17:34       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-01 17:58         ` Leif Lindholm
2017-12-05 20:46         ` Evan Lloyd
2017-12-07 14:55           ` Alexei Fedorov
2017-12-07 15:10             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-07 16:53               ` Alexei Fedorov
2017-12-08 21:39                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 05/19] ArmPlatformPkg: PL111LcdArmVExpressLib: Minor code cleanup evan.lloyd
2017-10-12 19:33   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 06/19] ArmPlatformPkg: PL111Lcd: Replace magic number with macro evan.lloyd
2017-10-12 19:34   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 07/19] ArmPlatformPkg: PL111LcdArmVExpressLib: Use FixedPcdGet32 evan.lloyd
2017-10-12 19:35   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 08/19] ArmPlatformPkg: PL11LcdArmVExpressLib: Improvement conditional evan.lloyd
2017-10-12 19:36   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 09/19] ArmPlatformPkg: HdLcdArmVExpressLib: Use FixedPcdGet32 evan.lloyd
2017-10-12 19:38   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 10/19] ArmPlatformPkg: HdLcdArmVExpressLib: Remove status check EFI_TIMEOUT evan.lloyd
2017-10-12 19:40   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 11/19] ArmPlatformPkg: Implement LcdIdentify function for HDLCD GOP evan.lloyd
2017-10-12 19:43   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 12/19] ArmPlatformPkg: Redefine LcdPlatformGetTimings function evan.lloyd
2017-10-13  7:49   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 13/19] ArmPlatformPkg: HdLcd Remove redundant Bpp evan.lloyd
2017-10-13  7:53   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-10-17 14:32     ` Evan Lloyd
2017-10-17 15:40       ` Leif Lindholm
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 14/19] ArmPlatformPkg: Add PCD to select pixel format evan.lloyd
2017-10-25 14:27   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 15/19] ArmPlatformPkg: PCD to swap red/blue format for HDLCD evan.lloyd
2017-10-25 14:33   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 16/19] ArmPlatformPkg: Reorganize Lcd Graphics Output evan.lloyd
2017-10-25 14:44   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 17/19] ArmPlatformPkg: Additional display modes evan.lloyd
2017-10-25 14:45   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 18/19] ArmPlatformPkg: Reserving framebuffer at build evan.lloyd
2017-10-25 14:51   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-10-25 18:10   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-01 16:56     ` Evan Lloyd
2017-12-01 17:38       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-09-26 20:15 ` [PATCH 19/19] ArmPlatformPkg: New DP500/DP550/DP650 GOP driver evan.lloyd
2017-10-25 15:31   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-11-28 18:17   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-01 13:12     ` Evan Lloyd
2017-12-01 17:18       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-05 20:03         ` Evan Lloyd
2017-12-05 21:27           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-07 20:21             ` Evan Lloyd
2017-12-07 21:10               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-01 17:29       ` Leif Lindholm

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