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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
To: "Ni, Ruiyu" <ruiyu.ni@intel.com>
Cc: Eric Dong <eric.dong@intel.com>,
	Jason Zhang <jason.zhang@linaro.org>,
	 "edk2-devel@lists.01.org" <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>,
	Guo Heyi <heyi.guo@linaro.org>,
	 linaro-uefi <linaro-uefi@lists.linaro.org>,
	Star Zeng <star.zeng@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] MdeModulePkg/PciHostBridge: Add address translation support
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 10:07:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKv+Gu_rbkBR9Z1XC0UWmC99rM5B-8mhFv_KO6CGzuVcOiR8hg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <979e60dc-13b3-48fd-fa08-58d570791b0e@Intel.com>

On 21 December 2017 at 09:59, Ni, Ruiyu <ruiyu.ni@intel.com> wrote:
> On 12/21/2017 5:52 PM, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>
>> On 21 December 2017 at 09:48, Ni, Ruiyu <ruiyu.ni@intel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/21/2017 5:14 PM, Guo Heyi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 08:32:37AM +0000, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21 December 2017 at 08:27, Guo Heyi <heyi.guo@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 03:26:45PM +0000, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20 December 2017 at 15:17, gary guo <heyi.guo@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 09:13:58AM +0000, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Heyi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 20 December 2017 at 08:21, Heyi Guo <heyi.guo@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> PCIe on some ARM platforms requires address translation, not only
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> legacy IO access, but also for 32bit memory BAR access as well.
>>>>>>>>>> There
>>>>>>>>>> will be "Address Translation Unit" or something similar in PCI
>>>>>>>>>> host
>>>>>>>>>> bridges to translation CPU address to PCI address and vice versa.
>>>>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>>>>> we think it may be useful to add address translation support to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> generic PCI host bridge driver.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I agree. While unusual on a PC, it is quite common on other
>>>>>>>>> architectures to have more complex non 1:1 topologies, which
>>>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>>>> require a forked PciHostBridgeDxe driver with local changes
>>>>>>>>> applied.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This RFC only contains one minor change to the definition of
>>>>>>>>>> PciHostBridgeLib, and there certainly will be a lot of other
>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>> to make it work, including:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Use CPU address for GCD space add and allocate operations,
>>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>> of PCI address; also IO space will be changed to memory space if
>>>>>>>>>> translation exists.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For I/O space, the translation should simply be applied to the I/O
>>>>>>>>> range. I don't think it makes sense to use memory space here, given
>>>>>>>>> that it is specific to architectures that lack native port I/O.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I made an assumption here that platforms supporting real port IO
>>>>>>>> space
>>>>>>>> do not need address translation, like IA32 and X64, and port IO
>>>>>>>> translation implies the platform does not support real port IO
>>>>>>>> space.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This may be a reasonable assumption. But I still think it is better
>>>>>>> not to encode any assumptions in the first place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Indeed the assumption is not so "generic", so I'll agree if you
>>>>>>>> recommend to support IO to IO translation as well. But I still hope
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> have IO to memory translation support in PCI host bridge driver,
>>>>>>>> rather than in CPU IO protocol, since the faked IO space might only
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> used for PCI host bridge and we may have overlapping IO ranges for
>>>>>>>> each host bridge, which is compatible with PCIe specification and
>>>>>>>> PCIe
>>>>>>>> ACPI description.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is fine. Under UEFI, these will translate to non-overlapping I/O
>>>>>>> spaces in the CPU's view. Under the OS, this could be totally
>>>>>>> different.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RC0 IO 0x0000 .. 0xffff -> CPU 0x00000 .. 0x0ffff
>>>>>>> RC1 IO 0x0000 .. 0xffff -> CPU 0x10000 .. 0x1ffff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is very similar to how MMIO translation works, and makes I/O
>>>>>>> devices behind the host bridges uniquely addressable for drivers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For our understanding, could you share the host bridge configuration
>>>>>>> that you are targetting?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IO translation on one of our platforms is like below:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PCI IO space        CPU memory space
>>>>>> 0x0000 .. 0xffff -> 0xafff0000 .. 0xafffffff
>>>>>> (The sizes are always 0x10000 so I will omit the limit for others)
>>>>>> 0x0000 .. 0xffff -> 0x8abff0000
>>>>>> 0x0000 .. 0xffff -> 0x8b7ff0000
>>>>>> ......
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The translated addresses may be beyond 32bit address, will this
>>>>>> violate IO space limitation? From EDK2 code, I didn't see such
>>>>>> limitation for IO space.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The MMIO address will not be used for I/O port addressing by the CPU.
>>>>> The MMIO to IO translation is an implementation detail of your CpuIo2
>>>>> protocol implementation.
>>>>>
>>>>> So there will be two stacked translations, one for PCI I/O to CPU I/O,
>>>>> and one for CPU I/O to CPU MMIO. The latter is transparent to the PCI
>>>>> host bridge driver.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes this should work.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Star, Eric and Ruiyu,
>>>>
>>>> Any comments on this RFC?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me confirm my understanding:
>>> The PciHostBridge core driver/library interface changes only
>>> take care of the MMIO translation.
>>>
>>> Heyi you will implement a special CpuIo driver in your
>>> platform code to take care of the IO to MMIO translation.
>>>
>>> But let me confirm, will you need to additional translate
>>> the MMIO (translated from IO) to another MMIO using an offset?
>>> If yes, will you handle that translation in your CpuIo driver?
>>>
>>
>> Hi Ray,
>>
>> The issue is that several PCIe root complexes have colliding I/O ranges:
>
>
> Ard,
> The IO-MMIO mapping needs CPU support. I am not sure whether IA32 or
> x64 supports.
> But I guess ARM supports. right?
>

Yes. Exposing PCI I/O ranges via MMIO translation is specific to the
CpuIo2 implementations we have for ARM.

> Will all the IO part be implemented in ARM CpuIo2 protocol?
>

No. The CPU to PCI I/O translation needs to be in PciHostBridgeDxe,
because it is in charge of allocating the GCD space, and without
translation, those allocations will collide. Also, while perhaps
non-existent in reality, it is imaginable that a host bridge could
translate port I/O addresses between the two sides of the bridge,
similar to how non 1:1 mapped PCI MMIO is handled.

So just like MMIO, the port I/O address used by the CPU, and the port
I/O address programmed into the device BAR could be subject to
translation.

This is not solvable in the CpuIo2 protocol, because without
translation at the host bridge driver level, a CPU port I/O address is
ambiguous: e.g., address 0x1000 may apply to each of the RCs.


>>
>>>>>> PCI IO space        CPU memory space
>>>>>> 0x0000 .. 0xffff -> 0xafff0000 .. 0xafffffff
>>>>>> (The sizes are always 0x10000 so I will omit the limit for others)
>>>>>> 0x0000 .. 0xffff -> 0x8abff0000
>>>>>> 0x0000 .. 0xffff -> 0x8b7ff0000
>>
>>
>> So the CPU view is different from the PCI view, and to create a single
>> CPU I/O space where all I/O port ranges behind all host bridges are
>> accessible, we need I/O translation for the CPU. This will result in
>> an intermediate representation
>>
>>>>>> PCI IO space        CPU IO space
>>>>>> 0x0000 .. 0xffff -> 0x00000 .. 0x0ffff
>>>>>> 0x0000 .. 0xffff -> 0x10000 .. 0x1ffff
>>>>>> 0x0000 .. 0xffff -> 0x20000 .. 0x2ffff
>>
>>
>> On top of that, given that ARM has no native port I/O instructions, we
>> will need to implement MMIO to IO translation, but this can be
>> implemented in the CpuIo2 protocol.
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>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Ray


  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-21 10:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-20  8:21 [RFC] MdeModulePkg/PciHostBridge: Add address translation support Heyi Guo
2017-12-20  9:13 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-20 15:17   ` gary guo
2017-12-20 15:26     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-21  8:27       ` Guo Heyi
2017-12-21  8:32         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-21  9:14           ` Guo Heyi
2017-12-21  9:48             ` Ni, Ruiyu
2017-12-21  9:52               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-21  9:59                 ` Ni, Ruiyu
2017-12-21 10:07                   ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2017-12-26  6:50                     ` Guo Heyi
2018-01-02  7:56                       ` Ni, Ruiyu
2018-01-02 15:09                         ` gary guo
2017-12-21  9:43       ` Ni, Ruiyu
2017-12-21 11:32         ` Guo Heyi

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