From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received-SPF: Pass (sender SPF authorized) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::52a; helo=mail-pg1-x52a.google.com; envelope-from=rudrac@gmail.com; receiver=edk2-devel@lists.01.org Received: from mail-pg1-x52a.google.com (mail-pg1-x52a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ml01.01.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 639EE211799DD for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 13:23:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pg1-x52a.google.com with SMTP id 70so12106904pgh.8 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 13:23:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Bjto64cZpArd32AxV8oF+ZCtLcPc6YNzJ7znXKhAeKM=; b=jxV6Gz5dX6L9Q/VMwucIr4967PA8z+JugskIiS+uHfThLtt+aIEfgniIGLcmri0MAm u/U0r0hiZt/eVfutowHFUTRDp2yCYu5ZDl4Ra/S0rmR8WJH0r4Enwcjjf+5CnD3+iPbU Un3g/H1soPczUjxlJ5A8eM7Qt0+WyKR4uVIpfVfB35C6pjF/e2QkzqxHjIZWXK47KtM0 2hk7WQMzEUxRY6NTru41EKzeGjYQYKMZdsOWsNS2cKKiT1FG1maXGFiUW3auhQ+VQxnZ MVNjDurnuaIfPR7ZmnQW3L/REyYOpr/LOBn7ddSqUnTU/TtIaVaA2RdAfQQ9C8LFiCbB pmUQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Bjto64cZpArd32AxV8oF+ZCtLcPc6YNzJ7znXKhAeKM=; b=uc3m4iVmr/o/1NYKsGozUewCD4QPk8k926rXlr+bP4lVhzdVkZSNi1/nKf+V4bJTab zFNgR9wNW1Njk7Gjbi2Dg9uKFkYJKCRkOQilhgR7f49HhO0Kvfx5vJVKrDKm2cA0u1sf dDdyVVEwXOYuTCFNZ4Vh9Z7u5VtaVmd8wWLY4XF0DG2EIPEB524fV/vaFX/dGSSH+ixm y2Xja4NNqeNqRjt2h5eADLZOlxgg2v2Cohuh6hMGh34Vm/bNUh1a27gmCxvYUvdgjf2k ERqKwEIgmPqXvNXgkEYBmrTRKsp0qdFNvxE04ysEKs1dkuUjbCrIjwlTf0ztjLXM0WLD TyJA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKoSGfTyR0TkRLHq9NZXrVjzXNzVm+5pkF5kzyr2fMxKqNi5EFS qOgG6irFYQsIFAjFPUvG43j1pz1VSVJ89c21VeI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5dIWijzkGG8j/65IzFpr6+4tBYPbwph0hi/Pzp8GhGPIr10G7Q8jcdOW3xfuVvP12q4dRuyJYqpF4x9z/HuUtk= X-Received: by 2002:a62:8096:: with SMTP id j144mr17042699pfd.140.1542489798310; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 13:23:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6535b4dd-57ac-856c-e013-ae8b3203c550@linux.intel.com> <3FEC98D0C33031D6.0465ECFF-1E41-4227-B64B-45BCF39396EA@mail.outlook.com> <76DE84138CBE89489874B70B432D8F9BC7EBA888@ORSMSX105.amr.corp.intel.com> <7beff8ac-5b54-02ea-d33d-71cd1acb3830@linux.intel.com> In-Reply-To: <7beff8ac-5b54-02ea-d33d-71cd1acb3830@linux.intel.com> From: =?UTF-8?B?UnVkcmEg4KSg4KS+4KSV4KWB4KSw?= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 15:22:04 -0600 Message-ID: To: stephano.cetola@linux.intel.com Cc: sean.brogan@microsoft.com, Mike Kinney , "edk2-devel@lists.01.org (edk2-devel@ml01.01.org)" , vincent.zimmer@intel.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 Subject: Re: [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration Software X-BeenThere: edk2-devel@lists.01.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: EDK II Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 21:23:20 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Discord is way better than slack and it is free. https://discordapp.com/ It has both web and app interface. Thanks, --Rc On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 1:09 PM stephano wrote: > Hey Sean, > > Thank you for your input. I'm going to run some tests with Github's > discussions feature so that I have a good understanding of how it > measures up to the offline capabilities of email. I think that was one > of the only concerns brought up yesterday. > > In terms of Phabricator, I'll admit, I'm very new to it and have a lot > to learn. Could you elaborate a bit on the shortcomings you see, > specifically integrations and searchability. If you could give specific > examples that would help a lot in our research. > > Thanks! > > Cheers, > Stephano > > On 11/16/2018 6:42 PM, Sean Brogan wrote: > > Mike, > > > > I like the github teams option for discussion as it is just there, free= , > and easy. It integrates nicely with all other parts of github. > Notifications are supported for those that want email. Is there any > reason this path doesn't get used now as a test since tianocore is alread= y > in github? > > > > I really can't get behind the Phabricator tool suite as it just has too > many downsides (self-hosted or pay, lack of integrations, lack of support > and limited searchability, poor ci integration, etc). > > > > Thanks > > Sean > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: edk2-devel On Behalf Of Kinney, > Michael D > > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 11:55 AM > > To: stephano ; Zimmer, Vincent < > vincent.zimmer@intel.com>; edk2-devel@lists.01.org; Kinney, Michael D < > michael.d.kinney@intel.com> > > Subject: Re: [edk2] [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration Software > > > > Hi Stephano, > > > > GitHub supports discussions for teams. > > > > If we added a new team to the GitHub TianoCore organization for all > developers that want to be involved in community topics and design > discussions (which should closely match the current members of > > edk2-devel) then that may be a simple option that uses services that > already there. > > > > Another option is to use discussions for one of the exiting teams (e.g. > Tianocore Maintainers) and make posts for these discussion topics public. > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fblog.g= ithub.com%2F2017-11-20-introducing-team-discussions%2F&data=3D02%7C01%7= Csean.brogan%40microsoft.com%7C90c7b5b8e6544710547308d64bfd68ac%7C72f988bf8= 6f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636779949096981093&sdata=3Dm%2BL8FRVa= 3yxdwLYUaCF1qC%2FfZ9IUp5kigjiUMJxSzJo%3D&reserved=3D0 > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fhelp.g= ithub.com%2Farticles%2Fabout-team-discussions%2F&data=3D02%7C01%7Csean.= brogan%40microsoft.com%7C90c7b5b8e6544710547308d64bfd68ac%7C72f988bf86f141a= f91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636779949096991106&sdata=3D5QLuiHfs%2FmgR3U= HC4BeYasDWAkf5zBR5s71ttRmeNAg%3D&reserved=3D0 > > > > Best regards, > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org] > >> On Behalf Of stephano > >> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 11:14 AM > >> To: Zimmer, Vincent ; edk2- > >> devel@lists.01.org > >> Subject: Re: [edk2] [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration Software > >> > >> The only reason I didn't include Slack is that it will only log so > >> much information before things start falling off into the ether. > >> > >> Does anyone in the community currently use Slack and know of an easy > >> way of archiving conversations publicly? > >> > >> > >> On 11/16/2018 9:56 AM, Zimmer, Vincent wrote: > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fsl= a > >>> ck.com%2F&data=3D02%7C01%7Csean.brogan%40microsoft.com%7C90c7b5b8= e > >>> 6544710547308d64bfd68ac%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7 > >>> C636779949096991106&sdata=3DflNeQfd9Tq2yX7ZUouV8pkINvofIRjeSoaTB6= Y > >>> ojWPg%3D&reserved=3D0 > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel- > >> bounces@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of Kevin D Davis > >>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 9:35 AM > >>> To: stephano ; edk2- > >> devel@lists.01.org > >>> Subject: Re: [edk2] [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration > >> Software > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> If we get to vote, I=E2=80=99d vote against Google > >> Groups. Their interface is very geared toward their internal work > >> flow and seems to change on a whim. > >> Thanks,Kevin > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 11:08 AM -0600, "stephano" > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> We are looking to augment our current communication > >> methods (mailing list / IRC) with a modern solution for group > >> collaboration. The goal is to allow folks to communicate effectively > >> without interrupting the current patch review system, as well as > >> enabling any future systems with more robust options. > >>> > >>> Specific features we are looking for include > >> attachments (currently blocked by the list), robust logging, modern > >> chat, and integration with tools like bug trackers and source > >> repositories (APIs, or better yet, pre-rolled plugins). > >>> > >>> Our current contenders are Google Groups and Groups.io. > >> This RFC is in hopes of finding other options to evaluate. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Stephano > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> edk2-devel mailing list > >>> edk2-devel@lists.01.org > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fli= s > >>> ts.01.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fedk2-devel&data=3D02%7C01%7Csean= . > >>> brogan%40microsoft.com%7C90c7b5b8e6544710547308d64bfd68ac%7C72f988bf > >>> 86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636779949096991106&sdata=3DB14= 7 > >>> wIbtDPoPYvHzds53CFlU6BBa9UKjoAuCJ8LMWFc%3D&reserved=3D0 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> edk2-devel mailing list > >>> edk2-devel@lists.01.org > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fli= s > >>> ts.01.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fedk2-devel&data=3D02%7C01%7Csean= . > >>> brogan%40microsoft.com%7C90c7b5b8e6544710547308d64bfd68ac%7C72f988bf > >>> 86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636779949096991106&sdata=3DB14= 7 > >>> wIbtDPoPYvHzds53CFlU6BBa9UKjoAuCJ8LMWFc%3D&reserved=3D0 > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> edk2-devel mailing list > >> edk2-devel@lists.01.org > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Flis= ts > >> .01.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fedk2-devel&data=3D02%7C01%7Csean.br= og > >> an%40microsoft.com%7C90c7b5b8e6544710547308d64bfd68ac%7C72f988bf86f141 > >> af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636779949096991106&sdata=3DB147wIbtDP= oP > >> YvHzds53CFlU6BBa9UKjoAuCJ8LMWFc%3D&reserved=3D0 > > _______________________________________________ > > edk2-devel mailing list > > edk2-devel@lists.01.org > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Flists.= 01.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fedk2-devel&data=3D02%7C01%7Csean.brogan%4= 0microsoft.com%7C90c7b5b8e6544710547308d64bfd68ac%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7= cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636779949096991106&sdata=3DB147wIbtDPoPYvHzds53CFlU= 6BBa9UKjoAuCJ8LMWFc%3D&reserved=3D0 > > > _______________________________________________ > edk2-devel mailing list > edk2-devel@lists.01.org > https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel >