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From: "Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org>
To: "Marvin Häuser" <mhaeuser@posteo.de>
Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [RFC PATCH 08/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeIpl: Relocate and remap XIP capable DXE drivers
Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 11:48:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXE8rX17UcOW72uGAkZfVMr5-7OKqRaSa88UZ=SSwh_=CQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXGL5kMN6vsPT6yAcXiunvLPfJVVj9ApOKbp3ZHJsLczVg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 30 May 2023 at 11:47, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 30 May 2023 at 11:42, Marvin Häuser <mhaeuser@posteo.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On 30. May 2023, at 11:38, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 30 May 2023 at 11:07, Marvin Häuser <mhaeuser@posteo.de> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Ard,
> > >>
> > >> Native PE toolchains *generally* also generate XIP images (/ALIGN = /FILEALIGN, but with 32 Byte rather than 64 Byte alignment compared to GCC49+ / CLANGDWARF) [1]. However, because they are underaligned by default (even for RT images that run in an OS context and MM drivers... sigh...), platforms manually override SectionAlignment, but not necessarily FileAlignment [2], breaking XIP. I don't think what you are doing is perfectly safe for these, as they will have FileAlignment < SectionAlignment (and by all chances, BaseTools is borked too). In my opinion check for FileAlignment == SectionAlignment. I can't vouch for how likely FileAlignment has a sane value, the AUDK loader does not read it at all and instead checks PointerToRawData == VirtualAddress, etc.
> > >>
> > >> BaseTools generally has poor support for non-XIP vs XIP, probably due to notorious underalignment since the very beginning. For PEIM XIPs for example, which must ship pre-relocated at least for Intel, GenFv just relocates the image in-memory and then copies the changes back to the FFS file [3]. There is no concept of changing the image file size within the procedure and as such, a non-XIP image cannot be converted to XIP on demand. This would be useful for a distinction between pre-memory and post-memory PEIMs, the former of which must be XIP (thus aligned), while the latter can be loaded and relocated in-RAM (thus can be underaligned w.r.t. FileAlignment), but alas.
> > >>
> > >
> > > If XIP for PE images with 4k section alignment is an issue, we could
> > > always explore loading them into a separate allocation from PEI, just
> > > like we do with DXE core itself.
> > >
> > > This would actually simplify the loader code quite a lot, as we'd be
> > > able to use the PEI core image loader directly. However, it means we'd
> > > have to pass this information (array of <guid, base address> tuples
> > > describing which images were already loaded by DxeIpl) via a HOB or
> > > some other method.
> >
> > I took a *very brief* look at the entire series now. Is this just to apply permissions before CpuDxe is loaded
>
> Yes.
>

Well, actually, the first part of the series gets rid of some
pointless memory copies, which is an improvement in itself.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-30  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-29 10:16 [RFC PATCH 00/11] Permit DXE drivers to execute in place Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-29 10:16 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeCore: Remove unused 'EntryPoint' argument to LoadImage Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  5:54   ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-30  7:36     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-29 10:16 ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeCore: Remove unused DstBuffer arg from LoadImage Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  5:58   ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-29 10:16 ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeCore: Remove FreePage argument from CoreUnloadImage Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  5:59   ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-29 10:16 ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeCore: Avoid caching memory mapped FFS files Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  6:03   ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-30  7:47     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-29 10:16 ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeCore: Use memory mapped FV protocol to avoid image copy Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  6:21   ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-30  7:51     ` [edk2-devel] " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  8:40       ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-30  8:51         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-29 10:17 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeCore: Expose memory mapped FV protocol when possible Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  6:22   ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-29 10:17 ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeCore: Execute loaded images in place if possible Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  6:32   ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-30  7:54     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-29 10:17 ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeIpl: Relocate and remap XIP capable DXE drivers Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  6:45   ` [edk2-devel] " Ni, Ray
2023-05-30  7:58     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  8:02       ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-30  8:29         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  9:06       ` Marvin Häuser
2023-05-30  9:18         ` Marvin Häuser
2023-05-30  9:38         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  9:41           ` Marvin Häuser
2023-05-30  9:47             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  9:48               ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2023-05-30  9:52                 ` Marvin Häuser
2023-05-30 10:02                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30 10:25                     ` Marvin Häuser
2023-05-31  7:13                       ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-31  8:05                         ` Marvin Häuser
2023-05-29 10:17 ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] MdeModulePkg/DxeCore: Add PCD NX policy bit for default NX state Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-30  6:54   ` Ni, Ray
2023-05-30  8:33     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-29 10:17 ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] ArmVirtPkg/ArmVirtQemu: Allow CPU arch protocol DXE to execute in place Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-29 10:17 ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] ArmVirtPkg/ArmVirtQemu: Map all DRAM non-execute by default Ard Biesheuvel
2023-06-01 14:53 ` [edk2-devel] [RFC PATCH 00/11] Permit DXE drivers to execute in place Oliver Smith-Denny
2023-06-01 18:11   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-06-01 18:30     ` Oliver Smith-Denny

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