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From: "Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org>
To: "Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com>
Cc: "devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	 Dionna Glaze <dionnaglaze@google.com>,
	"Xu, Min M" <min.m.xu@intel.com>,
	 James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <Thomas.Lendacky@amd.com>,
	 "Aktas, Erdem" <erdemaktas@google.com>,
	Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>,
	 "Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v9 0/4] Add safe unaccepted memory behavior
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 12:24:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXEM8iHY2ht1LOViiC2JoHiNYPiza1K9drWxWRKrLGu6uA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MW4PR11MB5872D184C9101DB977FDF2DB8CC29@MW4PR11MB5872.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 at 12:11, Yao, Jiewen <jiewen.yao@intel.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry, that I did not say clearly.
>
> When I say: "sign-off", I mean the Linux community and the maintainer have reached the consensus and agree to merge the patch for OS.
>
> Would you please send to me the email from the maintainer, or the URL to record the conversation?
>

I am the maintainer.

>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ard
> > Biesheuvel
> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 5:32 PM
> > To: devel@edk2.groups.io; Yao, Jiewen <jiewen.yao@intel.com>
> > Cc: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>; Dionna Glaze
> > <dionnaglaze@google.com>; Xu, Min M <min.m.xu@intel.com>; James
> > Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>; Tom Lendacky
> > <Thomas.Lendacky@amd.com>; Aktas, Erdem <erdemaktas@google.com>;
> > Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>; Kinney, Michael D
> > <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> > Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v9 0/4] Add safe unaccepted memory
> > behavior
> >
> > On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 at 08:33, Yao, Jiewen <jiewen.yao@intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is API between BIOS and OS.
> > >
> > > I would like to see sign-off from OS side at least, before we can merge to
> > EDKII main.
> > >
> >
> > I have already indicated (and am happy to repeat here) that for Linux,
> > I am fine with this approach, if it amounts to locating a protocol and
> > invoking it to inform the firmware that it doesn't need to accept all
> > available memory.
> >
> > Once we phase out the eager accept from the firmware entirely, we can
> > remove the protocol as well, and the OS loader will look for it and
> > simply not find it.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 3:18 PM
> > > > To: devel@edk2.groups.io; Yao, Jiewen <jiewen.yao@intel.com>
> > > > Cc: Dionna Glaze <dionnaglaze@google.com>; Ard Biescheuvel
> > > > <ardb@kernel.org>; Xu, Min M <min.m.xu@intel.com>; James Bottomley
> > > > <jejb@linux.ibm.com>; Tom Lendacky <Thomas.Lendacky@amd.com>;
> > Aktas,
> > > > Erdem <erdemaktas@google.com>; Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>;
> > Kinney,
> > > > Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v9 0/4] Add safe unaccepted memory
> > > > behavior
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 03:46:34AM +0000, Yao, Jiewen wrote:
> > > > > Hi Dionna
> > > > > I think I understand your intention.
> > > > > I believe we need OS side and UEFI standard sign-off for this
> > > > *BZ3987_MEMORY_ACCEPTANCE_PROTOCOL*, because OS is the
> > consumer,
> > > > right?
> > > > > If so, I suggest you maintain the work in a edk2-stage area for
> > > > https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-staging.
> > > > >
> > > > > EDKII main branch is for production. MdePkg can only include the API
> > > > definition approved by UEFI standard.
> > > > > EDK2 staging is a place for POC / collaboration. That is why I think edk2
> > > > staging is more proper place for this feature.
> > > > >
> > > > > Without OS and UEFI standard sign-off, I don't think this
> > > > BZ3987_MEMORY_ACCEPTANCE_PROTOCOL can be integrated to EDKII
> > main
> > > > branch, especially in MdePkg/Include/Protocol/MemoryAcceptance.h.
> > > >
> > > > Ok.  Reading through the bug (comment 53) it looks like Intel's take on
> > > > this is that it will simply not be needed long-term.
> > > >
> > > > How about adding it to OvmfPkg/Include/Protocol/MemoryAcceptance.h
> > > > then?
> > > >
> > > > It surely will be very useful short-term.  If it turns out that lazy
> > > > accept support indeed becomes a standard feature we might drop this
> > > > in 3-5 years.  Or promote it to MdePkg should that not be the case.
> > > >
> > > > take care,
> > > >   Gerd
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
>

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-13 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-13  0:14 [PATCH v9 0/4] Add safe unaccepted memory behavior Dionna Glaze
2023-01-13  0:14 ` [PATCH v9 1/4] OvmfPkg: Introduce CocoDxe driver Dionna Glaze
2023-01-13  0:14 ` [PATCH v9 2/4] MdePkg: Introduce the MemoryAcceptance protocol Dionna Glaze
2023-01-13  0:14 ` [PATCH v9 3/4] OvmfPkg: Implement AcceptAllUnacceptedMemory in CocoDxe Dionna Glaze
2023-01-13  0:14 ` [PATCH v9 4/4] OvmfPkg/PlatformPei: SEV-SNP make >=4GB unaccepted Dionna Glaze
2023-01-13  3:46 ` [PATCH v9 0/4] Add safe unaccepted memory behavior Yao, Jiewen
2023-01-13  7:18   ` [edk2-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2023-01-13  7:32     ` Yao, Jiewen
2023-01-13  9:32       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-01-13 11:11         ` Yao, Jiewen
2023-01-13 11:24           ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2023-01-13 11:44             ` Yao, Jiewen
2023-01-13 12:00               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-01-13 16:00               ` dave.hansen
2023-01-13 17:06                 ` Dionna Glaze
2023-01-13 17:57                   ` Dave Hansen
2023-01-13 18:23                     ` Dionna Glaze
2023-01-13 18:34                       ` Dave Hansen
2023-01-16 10:28                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-01-24 22:42                           ` Lendacky, Thomas
2023-01-24 22:46                             ` Dave Hansen
2023-01-25  9:01                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-01-25  9:18                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-01-25 11:44                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-01-25 12:10                                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-01-25 14:52                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-01-25 16:56                                       ` Yao, Jiewen

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