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From: "Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org>
To: Michael Brown <mcb30@ipxe.org>
Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io, lersek@redhat.com, kraxel@redhat.com,
	 Oliver Steffen <osteffen@redhat.com>,
	Pawel Polawski <ppolawsk@redhat.com>,
	 Jiewen Yao <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>,
	 Jordan Justen <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 1/1] OvmfPkg/NestedInterruptTplLib: replace ASSERT() with a warning logged.
Date: Sat, 6 May 2023 01:57:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXEw1cSApkTzFZXFdCdO0T8Pg3ujQWi6skWfaLuUGiBB+Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <01020187ee3d92cc-eb212c44-2e49-4ca2-992c-a2d7d3b03f6f-000000@eu-west-1.amazonses.com>

On Sat, 6 May 2023 at 01:27, Michael Brown <mcb30@ipxe.org> wrote:
>
> On 05/05/2023 19:56, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> > I don't like the patch. For two reasons:
> >
> > (1) It papers over the actual issue. The problem should be fixed where
> > it is, if possible.
>
> Agreed, but (as you have shown in
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2189136) the bug lies in
> Windows code rather than in EDK2 code.  If the goal is to allow these
> buggy Windows builds to still be used with OVMF, then the only option is
> to paper over the issue.  We should do this only if it can be proven
> safe to do so, of course.
>
> > (2) With the patch applied, NestedInterruptRaiseTPL() can return
> > TPL_HIGH_LEVEL (as "InterruptedTPL"). Consequently,
> > TimerInterruptHandler() [OvmfPkg/LocalApicTimerDxe/LocalApicTimerDxe.c]
> > may pass TPL_HIGH_LEVEL back to NestedInterruptRestoreTPL(), as
> > "InterruptedTPL".
> >
> > I believe that this in turn may invalidate at least one comment in
> > NestedInterruptRestoreTPL():
> >
> >      //
> >      // Call RestoreTPL() to allow event notifications to be
> >      // dispatched.  This will implicitly re-enable interrupts.
> >      //
> >      gBS->RestoreTPL (InterruptedTPL);
> >
> > Restoring TPL_HIGH_LEVEL does not re-enable interrupts -- nominally anyways.
>
> I agree that the comment is invalidated, but as far as I can tell the
> logic remains safe.
>
> I will put together a patch to update the comments in
> NestedInterruptTplLib to address the possibility of an interrupt
> occurring (illegally) at TPL_HIGH_LEVEL.
>
> > (a) Make LocalApicTimerDxe Xen-specific again. It's only the OVMF Xen
> > platform that really *needs* NestedInterruptTplLib. (Don't get me wrong:
> > NestedInterruptTplLib is technically correct in all circumstances, but
> > in practice it happens to be too strict.)
> >
> > (b) For the non-Xen OVMF platforms, re-create a LocalApicTimerDxe
> > variant that effectively has commits a086f4a63bc0 and a24fbd606125
> > reverted. (We should keep 9bf473da4c1d.) This returns us to
> > pre-239b50a86370 status -- that is, a timer interrupt handler that (a)
> > does not try to be smart about nested interrupts, therefore one that is
> > much simpler, and (b) is more tolerant of the Windows / cdboot.efi spec
> > violation, (c) is vulnerable to the timer interrupt storm seen on Xen,
> > but will never run on Xen. (Only the OVMF Xen platform is supposed to be
> > launched on Xen.)
>
> I'm less keen on this because it reduces the runtime exposure of a very
> complex piece of code, and will effectively cause that code to become
> unmaintained.
>
> It's also satisfying (to me) that NestedInterruptTplLib provides a
> provable upper bound on stack consumption due to interrupts, which can't
> be guaranteed by the simpler pre-239b50a86370 scheme.
>
> Could we defer judgement until after I've fully reasoned through (and
> documented) how NestedInterruptTplLib will work in the presence of
> interrupts occurring at TPL_HIGH_LEVEL?
>

Would it be feasible for our firmware implementation to disable the
timer interrupt at the timer end as well?

E.g.,

RaiseTPL(HIGH)::

CLI
disarm timer


RestoreTPL::

<complain if HIGH and interrupts enabled at CPU side>
re-arm timer
STI

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-05 23:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-03  7:19 [PATCH v2 1/1] OvmfPkg/NestedInterruptTplLib: replace ASSERT() with a warning logged Gerd Hoffmann
2023-05-05 14:10 ` [edk2-devel] " Michael Brown
2023-05-05 18:56   ` Laszlo Ersek
2023-05-05 23:27     ` Michael Brown
2023-05-05 23:57       ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2023-05-08  6:45         ` Laszlo Ersek
2023-05-09  9:13           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-08  6:38       ` Laszlo Ersek
2023-05-08 21:31         ` [PATCH 0/2] OvmfPkg: Relax assertion that interrupts do not occur at TPL_HIGH_LEVEL Michael Brown
2023-05-09  7:05           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-05-09  8:43           ` Laszlo Ersek
2023-05-09 12:08             ` [edk2-devel] " Michael Brown
2023-05-09 13:27               ` Laszlo Ersek
     [not found]         ` <20230508213100.3949708-1-mcb30@ipxe.org>
2023-05-08 21:31           ` [PATCH 1/2] OvmfPkg: Clarify invariants for NestedInterruptTplLib Michael Brown
2023-05-08 21:31           ` [PATCH 2/2] OvmfPkg: Relax assertion that interrupts do not occur at TPL_HIGH_LEVEL Michael Brown
2023-05-09  8:35             ` Laszlo Ersek
2023-05-09  9:42               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-05-09 12:04               ` [edk2-devel] " Michael Brown

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