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From: "Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org>
To: Pedro Falcato <pedro.falcato@gmail.com>
Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io, kraxel@redhat.com,
	Min Xu <min.m.xu@intel.com>,  Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	Jiewen Yao <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
	 Jian J Wang <jian.j.wang@intel.com>,
	Jordan Justen <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>,
	 Pawel Polawski <ppolawsk@redhat.com>,
	Oliver Steffen <osteffen@redhat.com>,
	 Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Xiaoyu Lu <xiaoyu1.lu@intel.com>,
	 Erdem Aktas <erdemaktas@google.com>,
	Guomin Jiang <guomin.jiang@intel.com>,
	 James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 00/11] OvmfPkg: add Crypto Driver support
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2023 08:56:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXGBRo5bJGTey-9Crr0pXi7=KSJCx3BfrA983cmT6nGGFg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKbZUD0RcoSYR87LddNDPtmLFvqq5DFxL1v4WhvD+ghibcZbzA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 4 Feb 2023 at 02:08, Pedro Falcato <pedro.falcato@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 11:25 PM Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 at 20:45, Pedro Falcato <pedro.falcato@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 4:28 PM Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >   Hi,
> > > >
> > > > > > Unfortunately it is not a clear size win everywhere.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PEI jumps up in size even though I'm using the min_pei config for
> > > > > > CryptoPei, seems it *still* has way too much bits compiled in
> > > > > > (didn't look into tweaking the config yet, hints are welcome).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -   17530 TcgPei
> > > > > > +   17146 TcgPei
> > > > > > +   34362 Tcg2Pei
> > > > > > -   51066 Tcg2Pei
> > > > > > +  333950 CryptoPei
> > > > >
> > > > > Why would we use this for PEI if the size increases?
> > > >
> > > > When using the crypto driver I'd prefer to do it everywhere and
> > > > don't mix+match things.
> > > >
> > > > Background is that I'm hoping the crypto driver abstraction can also
> > > > help to have alternative drivers using other crypto libraries without
> > > > creating a huge mess in CryptoPkg.  Specifically add openssl-3 as an
> > > > option.  openssl-11 goes EOL later this year (Nov IIRC).  Switch to
> > > > openssl-3 unconditionally has been vetoed by Intel due to the size
> > > > increase v3 brings.  So I'm looking for options here ...
> > >
> > > Seriously?
> > >
> > > Intel is blocking UP TO DATE NOT VULNERABLE OPENSSL because it doesn't
> > > fit their flash due to all the cra- value add?
> > > This is insane by many standards. Your freaking *CRYPTO LIBRARY* goes
> > > EOL and people are still concerned about size.
> > >
> > > Stellar job, Intel. Hopefully everyone gets their horrific custom
> > > network stack heartbled to death. Or someone finds yet another Secure
> > > Boot exploit.
> > >
> >
> > This is uncalled for. Please keep it civil and on topic. You (nor I)
> > have any context about this, and if you want to start a shouting match
> > on a public mailing list, I suggest you first get informed about what
> > the actual reasoning is behind such a decision (which, according to
> > the above, is the decision to keep OpenSSL 1.1 and 3 available side by
> > side). And please start another thread for this - I have no interest
> > in being part of this type of discussion.
>
> Sorry everyone, that was a ...passionate speech.
> I recognize I'm on the wrong here.
>

Thanks, much appreciated.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-04  7:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-03 13:27 [PATCH 00/11] OvmfPkg: add Crypto Driver support Gerd Hoffmann
2023-02-03 13:27 ` [PATCH 01/11] CryptoPkg: move Driver PCD configs to include files Gerd Hoffmann
2023-02-03 13:27 ` [PATCH 02/11] OvmfPkg: add OvmfCryptoLibs.dsc.inc Gerd Hoffmann
2023-02-03 13:27 ` [PATCH 03/11] OvmfPkg: OvmfPkgX64: use Crypto Libs include Gerd Hoffmann
2023-02-03 13:27 ` [PATCH 04/11] OvmfPkg: Add Crypto driver support, add more OvmfCrypto*.inc files Gerd Hoffmann
2023-02-03 13:28 ` [PATCH 05/11] OvmfPkg: OvmfPkgX64: use new Crypto support includes Gerd Hoffmann
2023-02-03 13:28 ` [PATCH 06/11] OvmfPkg: add OVMF_X64_CRYPTO_DRIVER test case Gerd Hoffmann
2023-02-03 13:28 ` [PATCH 07/11] OvmfPkg: OvmfPkgIa32X64: use crypto includes Gerd Hoffmann
2023-02-03 13:28 ` [PATCH 08/11] OvmfPkg: OvmfPkgIa32: " Gerd Hoffmann
2023-02-03 13:28 ` [PATCH 09/11] OvmfPkg: Microvm: " Gerd Hoffmann
2023-02-03 13:28 ` [PATCH 10/11] OvmfPkg: IntelTdx: " Gerd Hoffmann
2023-02-03 13:28 ` [PATCH 11/11] OvmfPkg: AmdSev: " Gerd Hoffmann
2023-02-03 13:33 ` [PATCH 00/11] OvmfPkg: add Crypto Driver support Ard Biesheuvel
2023-02-03 15:36   ` [edk2-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2023-02-03 15:57     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-02-03 16:28       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-02-03 19:45         ` Pedro Falcato
2023-02-03 23:24           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-02-04  1:08             ` Pedro Falcato
2023-02-04  7:56               ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2023-02-04  1:13             ` Marvin Häuser
2023-02-04  8:05               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-02-04  9:58                 ` Marvin Häuser
2023-02-04  8:10         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-02-06  8:21           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-02-07  3:15             ` Li, Yi

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