From: "Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: Pierre Gondois <pierre.gondois@arm.com>,
edk2-devel-groups-io <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>,
Sami Mujawar <sami.mujawar@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/8] DynamicTablesPkg: AcpiSsdtPcieLibArm: Fix _PRT description
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 15:54:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXGE9ccEwQ9D_HLg7HynWrv66+uEWHb7xtXkK3hkmxYg9g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k0eg57wk.wl-maz@kernel.org>
On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 at 14:53, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 12:59:11 +0000,
> Pierre Gondois <pierre.gondois@arm.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 1/29/22 7:20 PM, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > > On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 15:52:02 +0000,
> > > Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> (+ Marc)
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 at 16:41, <Pierre.Gondois@arm.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> From: Pierre Gondois <Pierre.Gondois@arm.com>
> > >>>
> > >>> In ACPI 6.4, s6.2.13, _PRT objects describing PCI legacy interrupts
> > >>> can be defined following 2 models.
> > >>> In the first model, a _SRS object must be described to modify the PCI
> > >>> interrupt. The _CRS and _PRS object allows to describe the PCI
> > >>> interrupt (level/edge triggered, active high/low).
> > >>> In the second model, the PCI interrupt cannot be described with a
> > >>> similar granularity. PCI interrupts are by default level triggered,
> > >>> active low.
> > >>>
> > >>> GicV2 SPI interrupts are level or edge triggered, active high. To
> > >>> correctly describe PCI interrupts, the first model is used, even though
> > >>> Arm Base Boot Requirements v1.0 requires to use the second mode.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> There are two different issues here:
> > >>
> > >> - using separate 'interrupt link' device objects with an Interrupt()
> > >> resource rather than a simple GSIV number
> > >> - whether _PRS and _SRS need to be implemented on those link objects.
> > >>
> > >> The latter is simply not true - _PRS and _SRS are optional, and
> > >> pointless if there is only a single possible value, so there is really
> > >> no need to add them here.
> > >>
> > >> As for the choice between the link object or the GSIV number: I don't
> > >> think INTx interrupts on ARM systems are actually level low, and the
> > >> GSIV option is widely used, also in platforms that exist in
> > >> edk2-platforms, without any reported issues.
> > >>
> > >> I've cc'ed Marc, perhaps he can shed some light on this, but I'd
> > >> prefer to stick to the GSIV approach if we can, as it is much simpler.
> > >
> > > I don't immediately see the point either. Yes, the GIC only supports
> > > level-high interrupts. However, all the PCIe implementations connected
> > > to it are inverting the level. If they don't, that's even simpler (the
> > > HW is broken).
> > >
> > > Is this to address an apparent disconnect with the spec?
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> >
> > 1. _PRS/_SRS methods
> > I agree they are optional and meaningless here as interrupts are not dynamically configurable.
> > However linux is checking that:
> > - the interrupt used in _CRS is one of the possible interrupts advertised in _PRS. If not, then a warning is issued and the interrupt is not used.
> > - the _SRS method is present. If not, setting the interrupt fails.
> > If _PRS and _SRS method are really optional, it seems these checks should not happen.
> > For now, using a link object without _PRS/_SRS doesn't work.
> >
> > Note:
> > The first check was initially done because an invalid interrupt was advertised in _CRS when valid interrupts were available in _PRS.
> > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2665
> >
> > 2. GSIV vs link object
> > The fist motivation was to accurately describe the interrupts.
> > Even though GIC interrupts must be active high, PCI interrupts are
> > active low by default (according to spec), and the GSIV model
> > doesn't allow to describe the polarity/activation state.
>
> And any operating system that groks ACPI on arm64 already knows about
> this quirks.
>
> > Another point that came out is that in linux, GSIV interrupts for
> > PCI are configured as level triggered by default.
>
> That's part of the PCI spec. INTx is level triggered, no ifs, no
> buts. Otherwise, you can't implement interrupt sharing, which legacy
> PCI requires with INTx. So Linux has nothing to do with this.
>
> > From "Base System Architecture 1.0", sE.4 and sE.6, PCI interrupts
> > can be level or edge triggered.
>
> You are confusing MSIs, which *MUST* be edge, and INTx which *MUST* be
> level. These are two very different thing, and you really should not
> conflate the two.
>
> > More specifically, KvmTool configures PCI interrupts as edge
> > triggered.
>
> Well, that's a gross bug in kvmtool. I guess that it doesn't really
> matter for virtio devices, but this should be fixed.
>
> > So the only way to describe an edge interrupt is to use a link object.
>
> MSIs should never be described in ACPI, as they are entirely SW
> programmable (there is no static allocation). Only INTx must be
> described, and that's strictly level.
>
Thanks for clearing that up Marc.
So we can drop the link objects after all, which means we are not
forced to add 'optional' methods just to appease Linux. This is far
better IMHO.
In the mean time, I expect that Marc or myself will get kvmtool fixed,
but this doesn't actually matter with GSIVs anyway.
Thanks,
Ard.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-31 14:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-28 15:40 [PATCH v3 0/8] Add ACPI support for Kvmtool PierreGondois
2022-01-28 15:40 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] DynamicTablesPkg: Print specifier macro for CM_OBJECT_ID PierreGondois
2022-01-28 15:40 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] DynamicTablesPkg: FdtHwInfoParserLib: Parse Pmu info PierreGondois
2022-01-29 15:33 ` [edk2-devel] " Ard Biesheuvel
2022-01-28 15:40 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] DynamicTablesPkg: AcpiSsdtPcieLibArm: Fix _PRT description PierreGondois
2022-01-29 15:52 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-01-29 18:20 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-01-31 12:59 ` PierreGondois
2022-01-31 13:52 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-01-31 14:54 ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2022-01-28 15:40 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] ArmVirtPkg: Add cspell exceptions PierreGondois
2022-01-28 15:41 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] ArmVirtPkg/Kvmtool: Add DSDT ACPI table PierreGondois
2022-01-31 15:17 ` [edk2-devel] " Rebecca Cran
2022-01-31 15:21 ` Sami Mujawar
2022-02-01 16:55 ` PierreGondois
2022-02-01 16:56 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-01 16:56 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-01 16:56 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-01 17:02 ` PierreGondois
2022-02-01 17:04 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-01 17:07 ` PierreGondois
2022-01-28 15:41 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] ArmVirtPkg/Kvmtool: Add Configuration Manager PierreGondois
2022-01-28 15:41 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] ArmVirtPkg/Kvmtool: Enable ACPI support PierreGondois
2022-01-28 15:41 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] ArmVirtPkg/Kvmtool: Enable Acpiview PierreGondois
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