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From: "Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org>
To: devel@edk2.groups.io, quic_llindhol@quicinc.com,
	 Rebecca Cran <rebecca@bsdio.com>
Cc: "Michael Kinney" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	"Liming Gao" <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>,
	"Jiewen Yao" <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
	"Michael Kubacki" <michael.kubacki@microsoft.com>,
	"Sean Brogan" <sean.brogan@microsoft.com>,
	"Sami Mujawar" <sami.mujawar@arm.com>,
	"Taylor Beebe" <t@taylorbeebe.com>,
	"Marvin Häuser" <mhaeuser@posteo.de>,
	"Bob Feng" <bob.c.feng@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 00/17] Enable BTI support in memory attributes table
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2023 14:54:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXHtZDzKVgcEA-0ZyuFBMnVmWWSGTVvQbUa+M8YCS11TLA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZCGBa8iRpvYOHdWy@qc-i7.hemma.eciton.net>

(update Rebecca's email)

On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 at 13:43, Leif Lindholm <quic_llindhol@quicinc.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 13:00:55 +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > Implement version 2 of the memory attributes table, which now contains a
> > flag informing the OS whether or not code regions may be mapped with CFI
> > mitigations such as IBT or BTI enabled.
> >
> > This series covers roughly the following parts:
> >
> > - (AARCH64) Annotate ELF objects generated from asm as BTI compatible
> >   when BTI codegen is enabled
> > - Update the BaseTools to emit the appropriate PE/COFF annotation when a
> >   BTI/IBT compatible ELF executable is converted to PE/COFF
> > - Take this PE/COFF annotation into account when populating the memory
> >   attributes table in the DXE core
> >
> > TODO:
> > - X64 changes to make the code IBT compatible and emit the ELF note
> > - Figure out how to generate such executables with native PE toolchains
> > - Implement BTI/IBT enforcement at boot time - this is something I
> >   intend to look into next.
> >
> > Can be tested with the CLANG38 toolchain (both Clang compiler and LLD
> > linker, version 3.8 or newer) with the following build options.
> >
> > [BuildOptions]
> >   GCC:*_*_AARCH64_PP_FLAGS = -mbranch-protection=bti
> >   GCC:*_*_AARCH64_CC_FLAGS = -mbranch-protection=bti
>
> I know you point out to use CLANG38, but the set is also tagged PATCH
> rather than RFC.
> I believe this option was added to GCC in version 9, meaning this is a
> breaking change for GCC8. Now, GCC8 is ancient, but I expect it's
> still what's available in RHEL8 for example. So it's worth mentioning.
>

Indeed.

So when and where to enable this (by default or not) is an open question.

I thought we might enable this by default for CLANGDWARF once we add
AArch64 support to it (which Rebecca is working on), and retire the
CLANG3x toolchains entirely.

Then, it is up to individual platforms to decide what they want to
enable or disable - it also depends on any asm code the platforms are
carrying. (This does not really matter for this series which only
covers runtime DXE executables running under the OS, but i'd like to
find ways to enable this at boot time as well)

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-27 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-27 11:00 [PATCH v2 00/17] Enable BTI support in memory attributes table Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] MdePkg/ProcessorBind AARCH64: Add asm macro to emit GNU BTI note Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:52   ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-27 12:15     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 12:56       ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-27 12:45   ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-27 12:46     ` [edk2-devel] " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 12:49       ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-27 14:12   ` Pedro Falcato
2023-03-27 14:24     ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-30  7:28       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-30 10:47         ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-27 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] MdePkg/BaseCpuLib AARCH64: Make asm files BTI compatible Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] MdePkg/BaseIoLibIntrinsic " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] MdePkg/BaseLib AARCH64: Make LongJump() " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] MdePkg/BaseLib AARCH64: Make asm files " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] MdePkg/BaseMemoryLibOptDxe " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] MdePkg/BaseSynchronizationLib " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] MdePkg/BaseRngLib " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] ArmPkg: Emit BTI opcodes when BTI codegen is enabled Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] ArmPkg/GccLto AARCH64: Add BTI note to LTO helper library Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] ArmPkg, BaseTools AARCH64: Add BTI ELF note to .hii objects Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 13:09   ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-27 13:16     ` [edk2-devel] " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] ArmPlatformPkg/PrePeiCore: Make vector table object BTI compatible Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] BaseTools/GenFw: Parse IBT/BTI support status from ELF note Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] BaseTools/GenFw: Add DllCharacteristicsEx field to debug data Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 15:46   ` Marvin Häuser
2023-03-27 16:41     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] MdePkg: Update MemoryAttributesTable to v2.10 Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 13:29   ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-29 16:47     ` [edk2-devel] " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-29 18:07       ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] MdePkg/PeCoffLib: Capture DLL characteristics fieldis in image context Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-30 14:44   ` [edk2-devel] " Michael Kubacki
2023-03-30 14:53     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] MdeModulePkg: Enable forward edge CFI in mem attributes table Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-28 22:59   ` [edk2-devel] " Oliver Smith-Denny
2023-04-03 15:48   ` osde
2023-04-04 10:41     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-04 15:00       ` Oliver Smith-Denny
2023-04-04 15:30         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-27 11:43 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] Enable BTI support in memory " Leif Lindholm
2023-03-27 12:54   ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2023-03-27 13:37     ` [edk2-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2023-03-28 23:00 ` Oliver Smith-Denny
2023-03-29 16:31 ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-30  7:41   ` [edk2-devel] " Ard Biesheuvel

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