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From: "Andrew Fish" <afish@apple.com>
To: devel@edk2.groups.io, yoshinoyatoko@163.com
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] Access 64bit address space in 32bit mode
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 09:20:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CC64DA9B-0378-44B0-8BA3-2237636B9891@apple.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <74daa6ed.1623.184553d61a8.Coremail.yoshinoyatoko@163.com>

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> On Nov 7, 2022, at 7:16 PM, Yoshinoya <yoshinoyatoko@163.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello
> Is it possible to access 64bit address space in 32bit mode?
> 

I assume you are talking about x86?


> For example, opcode prefix 0x66/67 could let code running in 16bit mode to access 32bit data/address.
> 

This is more complex than just instruction prefix. You need the CPU to be setup in big real mode via the GDT, so you basically have a 32-bit environment setup via GDT etc. Also the prefix opcodes have different meaning in different modes. I don’t think there is a way to make 32-bit code access 64-bit data via instruction prefix even if a 64-bit GDT was setup with paging enabled.  

> Or, establishing page table is a must requirement for accessing 64bit address space.
> 

For x86 you have to have 64-bit versions of the IDT, GDT, and you need to enable paging to enter 64-bit Long Mode. 

In a 32-bit x86 world you can access up to 64 GB of physical memory via using 32-bit page table using PAE [1]. PAE is a 32-bit virtual address space, but with support for a 36-bit physical address. I think in the olden days of 32-bit x86 EFI servers would have custom EFI code that enabled paging in 32-bit and carved out a chunk of the 32-bit memory space that could be mapped to 36-bit physical addresses. I think this was platform specific code and I don’t know of any open source version. The 32-bit Long Mode EFI does not have paging enabled, so adding PAE means enabling paging yourself. 

The edk2 has the opposite version of this code so you can call 16-bit really mode (Legacy BIOS) from 32-bit Protected mode, or 64-bit Long Mode. This is the code to Thunk for 32-bit/64-bit mode to 16-bit code [2]/ 

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extensio <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension>n <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension>
[2] https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/blob/master/MdePkg/Library/BaseLib/X86Thunk.c
https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/blob/master/MdePkg/Library/BaseLib/X64/Thunk16.nasm
edk2/Thunk16.nasm at master · tianocore/edk2
github.com
https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/blob/master/MdePkg/Library/BaseLib/Ia32/Thunk16.nasm
edk2/Thunk16.nasm at master · tianocore/edk2
github.com

Thanks,

Andrew Fish


> Thanks
>  
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-09 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-05 11:32 [edk2-devel] Python368.efi failed to run in shell environment Yoshinoya
2022-10-05 16:28 ` Michael D Kinney
2022-10-11 10:20   ` Yoshinoya
2022-10-18  9:04     ` Jayaprakash, N
2022-10-19  8:30       ` Yoshinoya
2022-10-19 13:16         ` Jayaprakash, N
2022-10-20  3:06           ` Yoshinoya
2022-10-20  3:18             ` Jayaprakash, N
2022-11-08  3:16 ` [edk2-devel] Access 64bit address space in 32bit mode Yoshinoya
2022-11-09 17:20   ` Andrew Fish [this message]
2022-11-09 18:58     ` vincent zimmer
2022-11-09 20:14       ` Andrew Fish
2023-02-18  0:55         ` [edk2-devel] PciBus scan: Does it support scan from EndBusNum to StartBusNum? Yoshinoya
2023-02-20  4:28           ` Yoshinoya
2023-02-21  1:27           ` Yoshinoya
2023-02-21  2:47             ` Yoshinoya
2023-02-21 19:18           ` Pedro Falcato
2023-02-22  1:10             ` Tiger Liu(BJ-RD)
2023-02-22  1:22               ` Pedro Falcato
2023-05-23  9:55           ` [edk2-devel] PciHostBridge: dynamic pcie bus limit assignment Yoshinoya
2022-11-09 20:40     ` [edk2-devel] Access 64bit address space in 32bit mode Brian J. Johnson
2023-01-03  9:04       ` [edk2-devel] PciBus driver: support pcie 4.0 bus/device enumeration ? Yoshinoya

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