* [edk2-devel] ArmPlatformPkg: does SecureBootDefaultKeys.fdf.inc need updated to add more DB files?
@ 2024-11-05 7:26 Rebecca Cran
2024-11-05 16:46 ` Doug Flick via groups.io
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From: Rebecca Cran @ 2024-11-05 7:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Leif Lindholm, Ard Biesheuvel, Sami Mujawar; +Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io
I've been following
https://github.com/edk2-porting/edk2-rk3588/issues/69 to add Secure Boot
support, and found this page that has guidance from Microsoft:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/windows-secure-boot-key-creation-and-management-guidance?view=windows-11
.
Currently ArmPlatformPkg/SecureBootDefaultKeys.fdf.inc supports 3 DB
files, but the Microsoft page appears to have 5 available for download?
Microsoft Windows Production PCA 2011
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?linkid=321192
Windows UEFI CA 2023
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2239776
Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA 2011
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?linkid=321194
Microsoft UEFI CA 2023
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2239872
Microsoft Option ROM UEFI CA 2023
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2284009
The RPi4 CI script
(https://github.com/pftf/RPi4/blob/master/.github/workflows/linux_edk2.yml#L50-L58)
downloads these 4:
curl -L https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=321192 -o keys/ms_db1.cer
curl -L https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=321194 -o keys/ms_db2.cer
curl -L https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2239776 -o keys/ms_db3.cer
curl -L https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2239872 -o keys/ms_db4.cer
Do we only want 3 of the available files, or are all of them relevant?
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* Re: [edk2-devel] ArmPlatformPkg: does SecureBootDefaultKeys.fdf.inc need updated to add more DB files?
2024-11-05 7:26 [edk2-devel] ArmPlatformPkg: does SecureBootDefaultKeys.fdf.inc need updated to add more DB files? Rebecca Cran
@ 2024-11-05 16:46 ` Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-11-08 2:26 ` Rebecca Cran
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From: Doug Flick via groups.io @ 2024-11-05 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rebecca Cran, devel
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Hey Rebecca!
We actually have the following repo on [github/secureboot_objects](https://github.com/microsoft/secureboot_objects) where you can get Secure Boot default releases and ask questions directly to the team that manages secure boot at Microsoft.
To answer your question,
The 2011 certificates are expiring in 2026 so we're beginning a transition away from them.
The expiring certificates are:
```
DB: Microsoft Windows Production PCA 2011
DB: Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA 2011 (Third Party)
KEK: Microsoft Corporation KEK CA 2011
```
The new certificates are:
```
DB: Windows UEFI CA 2023
DB: Microsoft UEFI CA 2023 (Third Party)
DB: Microsoft Option ROM UEFI CA 2023 (Only Option Roms (New behavior meant to improve configurability))
KEK: Microsoft Corporation KEK 2K CA 2023
```
Right now the guidance is to include both sets of certificates to provide the most compatibility during the transition and then at a point further in the future we'll begin remove the 2011 certificates from the default.
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* Re: [edk2-devel] ArmPlatformPkg: does SecureBootDefaultKeys.fdf.inc need updated to add more DB files?
2024-11-05 16:46 ` Doug Flick via groups.io
@ 2024-11-08 2:26 ` Rebecca Cran
2024-11-18 17:58 ` Doug Flick via groups.io
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From: Rebecca Cran @ 2024-11-08 2:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Doug Flick, devel
On 11/5/24 9:46 AM, Doug Flick via groups.io wrote:
>
> Hey Rebecca!
>
> We actually have the following repo on github/secureboot_objects
> <https://github.com/microsoft/secureboot_objects> where you can get
> Secure Boot default releases and ask questions directly to the team
> that manages secure boot at Microsoft.
>
> To answer your question,
>
> The 2011 certificates are expiring in 2026 so we're beginning a
> transition away from them.
>
> The expiring certificates are:
>
> |DB: Microsoft Windows Production PCA 2011 DB: Microsoft Corporation
> UEFI CA 2011 (Third Party) KEK: Microsoft Corporation KEK CA 2011 |
>
> The new certificates are:
>
> |DB: Windows UEFI CA 2023 DB: Microsoft UEFI CA 2023 (Third Party) DB:
> Microsoft Option ROM UEFI CA 2023 (Only Option Roms (New behavior
> meant to improve configurability)) KEK: Microsoft Corporation KEK 2K
> CA 2023 |
>
> Right now the guidance is to include both sets of certificates to
> provide the most compatibility during the transition and then at a
> point further in the future we'll begin remove the 2011 certificates
> from the default.
>
Thanks! I was wondering if you know whether anyone's considered adding
the repo as a submodule of edk2, probably somewhere under CryptoPkg?
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* Re: [edk2-devel] ArmPlatformPkg: does SecureBootDefaultKeys.fdf.inc need updated to add more DB files?
2024-11-08 2:26 ` Rebecca Cran
@ 2024-11-18 17:58 ` Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-11-24 16:50 ` Sean via groups.io
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From: Doug Flick via groups.io @ 2024-11-18 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rebecca Cran, devel
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I don't think there's any immediate consideration, but I'm certainly not opposed to it if the community is up for it.
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* Re: [edk2-devel] ArmPlatformPkg: does SecureBootDefaultKeys.fdf.inc need updated to add more DB files?
2024-11-18 17:58 ` Doug Flick via groups.io
@ 2024-11-24 16:50 ` Sean via groups.io
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From: Sean via groups.io @ 2024-11-24 16:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I doing think it makes sense in edk2. That is a platform responsibility and in general edk2 should not represent the platform.
Thanks
Sean
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Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] ArmPlatformPkg: does SecureBootDefaultKeys.fdf.inc need updated to add more DB files?
I don't think there's any immediate consideration, but I'm certainly not opposed to it if the community is up for it.
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