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From: "Michael D Kinney" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
To: "devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
	"mikuback@linux.microsoft.com" <mikuback@linux.microsoft.com>,
	"quic_llindhol@quicinc.com" <quic_llindhol@quicinc.com>,
	"Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
Cc: "ardb@kernel.org" <ardb@kernel.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>,
	Sami Mujawar <sami.mujawar@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v3 13/14] ArmPkg: Turn off spellcheck audit mode
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 16:57:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CO1PR11MB4929878C5D7E4B753D53EA97D2E19@CO1PR11MB4929.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <843b47a9-d6ee-31dd-fd21-363f3ce8ddc9@linux.microsoft.com>

Michael,

I appreciate your efforts to improve code quality in all aspects.

I think this is the only part of the change that is being asked
to be adjusted (specifically for the ArmPkg and ArmVirtPkg) is
the following.

>>>>>> -        "AuditOnly": True,
>>>>>> +        "AuditOnly": False,

Different packages may choose different levels if quality or 
quality checks based on the maturity of the package and what
is deemed critical to the package maintainers.

There are obvious checks such as compile failures that we can
all agree on.  Checks that are not directly related to 
functionality should perhaps be flexible and the policy be 
allowed to be adjusted by the package maintainers.

I personally would prefer to see as many packages as possible
take advantage of the CI checks that have been enabled, so I
think it is good to start with an approach where everything is
on by default, and if a package maintainer would prefer a
specific package to have one disabled, then defer to that request.

I also think it would be good to add comments to the package
YAML file if a check is disabled that clearly states that
the choice to diverge from the standard CI checks was made
by the package maintainer.

With this approach, I think your series can go forward with
AuditOnly set to True for the ArmPkg and ArtVirtPkg with 
comments that this setting is different than the default
due to requests from the maintainers.

Best regards,

Mike


> -----Original Message-----
> From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Kubacki
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 8:39 AM
> To: devel@edk2.groups.io; quic_llindhol@quicinc.com
> Cc: ardb@kernel.org; Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>; Sami Mujawar <sami.mujawar@arm.com>; Kinney, Michael D
> <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v3 13/14] ArmPkg: Turn off spellcheck audit mode
> 
> On 12/15/2022 5:42 AM, Leif Lindholm wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 19:04:06 -0500, Michael Kubacki wrote:
> >> I'm just trying to understand your position.
> >>
> >> Are you saying you would rather people check in typos and then later have
> >> patches come into the package to fix them?
> >>
> >> For example, like these:
> >>
> >> - ArmVirtPkg: https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/97021
> >> - ArmPkg: https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/97022
> >>
> >> Why not just have the code checked in without typos in the first place?
> >
> > A little fairy once whispered in my ear that if I stopped myself and
> > tried to rephrase whenever I found myself using the work "just", I
> > would meet less friction in context-stripping communication mediums
> > such as email. They weren't wrong.
> >
> 
> This topic is met with friction regardless of how it is phrased.
> 
> The friction exists because the community chose to enable spell checking
> in CI and it is not wanted here.
> 
> The mechanism chosen to ignore words was through YAML files rather than
> a button. A common YAML file can store words for the whole project and
> packages can add package-specific words. The community was expected to
> make the contributions necessary in the common file to minimize impact
> on package maintainers.
> 
> The spellcheck log outputs the exact code that needs to be copied/pasted
> to the exception list - whether the global list or package list. If you
> run CI locally, you can copy/paste the exact lines needed.
> 
> This is a patch series I work on in my spare time to try to improve the
> project. I am tired of Ard's dismissive and passive aggressive responses
> such as those in https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/97433 so I
> revoke the series and will let others decide what they want to do.
> 
> >> Checking in typos creates more review work, makes the code history have typo
> >> fix patches that could be avoided, and impacts accessibility.
> >>
> >> I spend far more time with edk2 overhead such as email formatting problems,
> >> keeping track of maintainer email address changes when updating patches,
> >> mapping email replies back to code, and so on that does not improve the
> >> code. A spell checker only takes seconds and is built into edk2 CI.
> >
> > We didn't disable the spellchecker for the ARM* packages (only)
> > because we hate correct spelling. We disabled it because it throws
> > false positives left right and centre. So we end up needing to update
> > the .ci.yaml every time we mention an architectural concept we haven't
> > mentioned before. Or add a copyright line mentioning a new
> > organisation. Or correctly use apostrophes in ways the spellchecker
> > doesn't expect.
> >
> > Here is the current (and very incomplete, oh - and package specific)
> > exception list for ArmPkg:
> >
> > https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/blob/master/ArmPkg/ArmPkg.ci.yaml#L95
> >
> > If it had a aggressiveness knob and we could turn it down from 11 to
> > 3 and work our way up from there, that would be another story.
> >
> > Failing that, a push-through-anyway-this-isn't-a-typo label would be a
> > reasonable compromise.
> >
> > But for now, I agree with Ard.
> >
> > /
> >      Leif
> >
> >> On 12/14/2022 6:24 PM, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at 00:21, Michael Kubacki
> >>> <mikuback@linux.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes. It will also reduce frequency of incoming patches that must be
> >>>> reviewed and merged due to people continuously fixing trivial spelling
> >>>> errors.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> In that case, NAK to this patch (and the ArmVirtPkg one). Unless we
> >>> add a button to the GitHub UI that permits me to override a negative
> >>> CI result on a PR.
> >>>
> >>>> On 12/14/2022 6:07 PM, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 at 23:53, <mikuback@linux.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From: Michael Kubacki <michael.kubacki@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Audit mode was enabled for the spellcheck CI plugin. It is no longer
> >>>>>> needed with recent changes. Spelling errors can be checked in the
> >>>>>> package moving forward.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cc: Leif Lindholm <quic_llindhol@quicinc.com>
> >>>>>> Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>
> >>>>>> Cc: Sami Mujawar <sami.mujawar@arm.com>
> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Michael Kubacki <michael.kubacki@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Will this patch result in PRs potentially being rejected by pre-merge
> >>>>> CI due to trivial spelling errors?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>     ArmPkg/ArmPkg.ci.yaml | 3 ++-
> >>>>>>     1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> diff --git a/ArmPkg/ArmPkg.ci.yaml b/ArmPkg/ArmPkg.ci.yaml
> >>>>>> index c8dface6821a..a304c7966cf7 100644
> >>>>>> --- a/ArmPkg/ArmPkg.ci.yaml
> >>>>>> +++ b/ArmPkg/ArmPkg.ci.yaml
> >>>>>> @@ -87,7 +87,7 @@
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         ## options defined .pytool/Plugin/SpellCheck
> >>>>>>         "SpellCheck": {
> >>>>>> -        "AuditOnly": True,
> >>>>>> +        "AuditOnly": False,
> >>>>>>             "IgnoreFiles": [
> >>>>>>                 "Library/ArmSoftFloatLib/berkeley-softfloat-3/**"
> >>>>>>             ],                           # use gitignore syntax to ignore errors
> >>>>>> @@ -148,6 +148,7 @@
> >>>>>>               "fcmplt",
> >>>>>>               "ffreestanding",
> >>>>>>               "frsub",
> >>>>>> +          "hauser",
> >>>>>>               "hisilicon",
> >>>>>>               "iccabpr",
> >>>>>>               "iccbpr",
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> 2.28.0.windows.1
> >>>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-15 16:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-14 22:52 [PATCH v3 00/14] Fix new typos reported Michael Kubacki
2022-12-14 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] PrmPkg: " Michael Kubacki
2022-12-20  3:09   ` [edk2-devel] " Ankit Sinha
2022-12-20 22:19     ` Michael Kubacki
2022-12-14 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] StandaloneMmPkg: " Michael Kubacki
2022-12-14 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] DynamicTablesPkg: " Michael Kubacki
2022-12-14 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] UnitTestFrameworkPkg: " Michael Kubacki
2022-12-14 23:05   ` Michael D Kinney
2022-12-14 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] FatPkg: " Michael Kubacki
2022-12-14 23:07   ` [edk2-devel] " Michael D Kinney
2022-12-14 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] FmpDevicePkg: " Michael Kubacki
2022-12-14 23:05   ` Michael D Kinney
2022-12-14 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] ArmPkg: Ignore " Michael Kubacki
2022-12-14 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] ArmVirtPkg: Add new ignored spelling errors Michael Kubacki
2022-12-14 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] ArmPkg: Fix typos Michael Kubacki
2022-12-14 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] ArmPlatformPkg: " Michael Kubacki
2022-12-14 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] ArmVirtPkg: " Michael Kubacki
2022-12-14 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] .azurepipelines: Update cspell version to 5.21.0 Michael Kubacki
2022-12-14 23:06   ` [edk2-devel] " Michael D Kinney
2022-12-14 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] ArmPkg: Turn off spellcheck audit mode Michael Kubacki
2022-12-14 23:07   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-12-14 23:21     ` Michael Kubacki
2022-12-14 23:24       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-12-15  0:04         ` [edk2-devel] " Michael Kubacki
2022-12-15  8:46           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-12-15 10:42           ` Leif Lindholm
2022-12-15 16:38             ` Michael Kubacki
2022-12-15 16:57               ` Michael D Kinney [this message]
2022-12-16 17:36                 ` Michael Kubacki
2023-01-04 10:37               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-01-06  2:46                 ` Michael Kubacki
2023-01-11 16:23                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-01-13  1:50                     ` Michael Kubacki
2022-12-14 22:52 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] ArmVirtPkg: " Michael Kubacki
2022-12-15 16:40 ` [PATCH v3 00/14] Fix new typos reported Michael Kubacki
2022-12-16  2:35   ` Dongdong Zhang

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