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X-BeenThere: edk2-devel@lists.01.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: EDK II Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 17:36:19 -0000 Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But it is pulling in: INF MdeModulePkg/Universal/DisplayEngineDxe/DisplayEngineDxe.inf INF MdeModulePkg/Universal/SetupBrowserDxe/SetupBrowserDxe.inf Which are display based components. Are these required in the image even t= hough they are not used? A browser and display engine take up a lot of space on a constrained storag= e system. K2 -----Original Message----- From: Kinney, Michael D [mailto:michael.d.kinney@intel.com]=20 Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 9:34 AM To: Kurt Kennett ; Laszlo Ersek ; Kinney, Michael D Cc: edk2-devel@lists.01.org Subject: RE: [edk2] Headless devices - BDS to use? K2, The QuarkPlatformPkg is an example of a serial only console platform that u= ses MdeModulePkg BDS. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of=20 > Kurt Kennett > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 9:21 AM > To: Laszlo Ersek > Cc: edk2-devel@lists.01.org > Subject: Re: [edk2] Headless devices - BDS to use? >=20 > Okay, but there is no reference or example for such, correct? >=20 > Right now people who don't have a display must fumble about trying to=20 > get Hii resources they don't need, understand, or use to get it to work? >=20 > And there is no boot manager menu that is not graphics based? >=20 > K2 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Laszlo Ersek [mailto:lersek@redhat.com] > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 9:19 AM > To: Kurt Kennett > Cc: edk2-devel@lists.01.org > Subject: Re: [edk2] Headless devices - BDS to use? >=20 > On 11/14/16 17:51, Kurt Kennett wrote: > > What BDS are headless devices (no display, serial port only) supposed t= o use? > > > > The MdeModulePkg one seems to require Hii resources in order to work at= all. >=20 > It may require HII resources, but it works fine with just a serial port. >=20 > Thanks > Laszlo >=20 > > The ArmPlatformPkg BDS (that supported headless devices just fine)=20 > > seems to be > gone now. > > > > K2 > > _______________________________________________ > > edk2-devel mailing list > > edk2-devel@lists.01.org > > https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel > > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > edk2-devel mailing list > edk2-devel@lists.01.org > https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel