Re: [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration Software: Microsoft Teams

Re: [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration Software: Microsoft Teams

[Jeremiah Cox]

On the topic of Microsoft Teams, it has a free option, limited to 300 users.  More than 300 users requires an enterprise license, starting at $8/user/month.  There is a steep discount for some types of non-profits, but I don't know if we would qualify.

More details on the offering here:  https://products.office.com/en-us/microsoft-teams/free

Highlights:
* Unlimited chat messages and search.
* Built-in audio and video calling for individuals, groups, and full team meetups.
* 10 GB of team file storage plus additional 2 GB per person for personal storage.
* Integrated, real-time content creation with Office Online apps, including built-in Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and OneNote.
* Unlimited app integrations with 140+ business apps to choose from-including Adobe, * Evernote, and Trello.
* Ability to communicate and collaborate with anyone inside or outside your organization, backed by Microsoft's secure, global infrastructure.

If this sounds like a viable option to the community, please email me and I'll add you as a guest on our Project Mu Teams channel for evaluation purposes.

Thanks,
Jeremiah

-----Original Message-----
From: edk2-devel <edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org> On Behalf Of stephano
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:59 AM
To: edk2-devel@lists.01.org
Subject: [edk2] [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration Software

We are looking to augment our current communication methods (mailing list / IRC) with a modern solution for group collaboration. The goal is to allow folks to communicate effectively without interrupting the current patch review system, as well as enabling any future systems with more robust options.

Specific features we are looking for include attachments (currently blocked by the list), robust logging, modern chat, and integration with tools like bug trackers and source repositories (APIs, or better yet, pre-rolled plugins).

Our current contenders are Google Groups and Groups.io. This RFC is in hopes of finding other options to evaluate.

Cheers,
Stephano
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Re: [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration Software: Microsoft Teams

[Knop, Ryszard]

I think any solution like that should be publicly available for an
unlimited number of users. As it stands now, mailing lists and IRC are
open to all - if software like Microsoft Teams is to be used, it's
pretty likely most communication would quickly become invitation-only
to avoid paying $8 per user. This often happens with many projects
moving from mailing lists/IRC to something like Slack and having
essentially zero public or searchable communications. Perhaps someone
admining the edk2-devel list could look up the amount of subscribers
and chime in?

Thanks, Richard.

On Thu, 2019-01-03 at 20:37 +0000, Jeremiah Cox via edk2-devel wrote:
> On the topic of Microsoft Teams, it has a free option, limited to 300
> users.  More than 300 users requires an enterprise license, starting
> at $8/user/month.  There is a steep discount for some types of non-
> profits, but I don't know if we would qualify.
> 
> More details on the offering here:  
> https://products.office.com/en-us/microsoft-teams/free
> 
> Highlights:
> * Unlimited chat messages and search.
> * Built-in audio and video calling for individuals, groups, and full
> team meetups.
> * 10 GB of team file storage plus additional 2 GB per person for
> personal storage.
> * Integrated, real-time content creation with Office Online apps,
> including built-in Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and OneNote.
> * Unlimited app integrations with 140+ business apps to choose from-
> including Adobe, * Evernote, and Trello.
> * Ability to communicate and collaborate with anyone inside or
> outside your organization, backed by Microsoft's secure, global
> infrastructure.
> 
> If this sounds like a viable option to the community, please email me
> and I'll add you as a guest on our Project Mu Teams channel for
> evaluation purposes.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeremiah
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: edk2-devel <edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org> On Behalf Of
> stephano
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:59 AM
> To: edk2-devel@lists.01.org
> Subject: [edk2] [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration Software
> 
> We are looking to augment our current communication methods (mailing
> list / IRC) with a modern solution for group collaboration. The goal
> is to allow folks to communicate effectively without interrupting the
> current patch review system, as well as enabling any future systems
> with more robust options.
> 
> Specific features we are looking for include attachments (currently
> blocked by the list), robust logging, modern chat, and integration
> with tools like bug trackers and source repositories (APIs, or better
> yet, pre-rolled plugins).
> 
> Our current contenders are Google Groups and Groups.io. This RFC is
> in hopes of finding other options to evaluate.
> 
> Cheers,
> Stephano
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Re: [edk2-announce][RFC] Collaboration Software: Microsoft Teams

[Rebecca Cran]

On Friday, 4 January 2019 03:09:02 MST Knop, Ryszard wrote:
> I think any solution like that should be publicly available for an
> unlimited number of users. As it stands now, mailing lists and IRC are
> open to all - if software like Microsoft Teams is to be used, it's
> pretty likely most communication would quickly become invitation-only
> to avoid paying $8 per user. This often happens with many projects
> moving from mailing lists/IRC to something like Slack and having
> essentially zero public or searchable communications. Perhaps someone
> admining the edk2-devel list could look up the amount of subscribers
> and chime in?

There _are_ open source alternatives to Slack and Microsoft Teams - for 
example Mattermost (https://mattermost.com/), and Discord might also be an 
option (despite it being aimed pretty strongly at gamers). There's also the 
option of using IRC but having a Slack instance which uses the IRC bridge to 
allow bidirectional communication (albeit a bit clumsily). 

Personally, I'd recommend against using Microsoft Teams. I've talked to people 
who've used it and it pales in comparison to Slack.  I know teams who have 
'gone rogue' and set up their own Slack to avoid using the official Microsoft 
Teams instance.

-- 
Rebecca