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* Re: [edk2-rfc] [RFCv2] code-first process for UEFI-forum specifications
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@ 2020-05-20 10:19 ` Samer El-Haj-Mahmoud
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From: Samer El-Haj-Mahmoud @ 2020-05-20 10:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: rfc@edk2.groups.io, Samer El-Haj-Mahmoud, ray.ni@intel.com,
	leif@nuviainc.com, devel@edk2.groups.io
  Cc: Felixp@ami.com, Doran, Mark, Andrew Fish, Laszlo Ersek,
	Kinney, Michael D, Samer El-Haj-Mahmoud

Are there any additional comments on the code first process for UEFI specifications?

When should we expect the process to *actually* start being used?

Thanks,
--Samer

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rfc@edk2.groups.io <rfc@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Samer El-Haj-
> Mahmoud via groups.io
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 5:11 PM
> To: rfc@edk2.groups.io; ray.ni@intel.com; leif@nuviainc.com;
> devel@edk2.groups.io
> Cc: Felixp@ami.com; Doran, Mark <mark.doran@intel.com>; Andrew Fish
> <afish@apple.com>; Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>; Kinney, Michael D
> <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; Samer El-Haj-Mahmoud <Samer.El-Haj-
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> Subject: Re: [edk2-rfc] [RFCv2] code-first process for UEFI-forum
> specifications
>
> Leif, Ray,
>
> I have not seen any discussion on this thread since March(!)...
>
> Please see my comments below.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rfc@edk2.groups.io <rfc@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ni, Ray via
> > Groups.Io
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:15 AM
> > To: rfc@edk2.groups.io; leif@nuviainc.com; devel@edk2.groups.io
> > Cc: Felixp@ami.com; Doran, Mark <mark.doran@intel.com>; Andrew Fish
> > <afish@apple.com>; Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>; Kinney, Michael D
> > <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> > Subject: Re: [edk2-rfc] [RFCv2] code-first process for UEFI-forum
> > specifications
> >
> > >
> > > ## Github
> > > New repositories will be added for holding the text changes and the
> > > source
> > code.
> > >
> > > Specification text changes will be held within the affected source
> > > repository, in the Github flavour of markdown, in a file (or split
> > > across several files) with .md suffix.
> >
> > What's the case when multiple .MD files are needed?
> >
> > > (This one may break down where we have a specification change
> > > affecting multiple specifications, but at that point we can track it
> > > with multiple BZ entries)
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > ## Source code
> > > In order to ensure draft code does not accidentally leak into
> > > production use, and to signify when the changeover from draft to
> > > final happens, *all* new or modified[1] identifiers need to be
> > > prefixed with the
> > relevant BZ####.
> > >
> > > [1] Modified in a non-backwards-compatible way. If, for example, a
> > statically
> > >     sized array is grown - this does not need to be prefixed. But a
> > > tag in a comment would be *highly* recommended.
> >
> > If a protocol is enhanced to provide more interfaces with increased
> > revision number, would you like the protocol name to be prefixed with
> BZ####?
> > Or just the new interfaces added to the protocol are prefixed the BZ####?
> > I think just prefixing the new interfaces can meet the purpose.
> >
>
> I think pre-fixing the new interfaces is sufficient. Otherwise, you need to
> modify all code using the existing interfaces (for build verification)
>
>
> > But the protocol definition is changed, it also needs to be prefixed
> > according to this flow.
> > Can you clarify a bit more?
> >
>
> A changed protocol definition is not backwards compatible, and typically
> results in a new protocol GUID. In that case, it really becomes a new
> definition and need to be pre-fixed per this rule. Right?
>
> > >
> > > ### File names
> > > New public header files need the prefix. I.e.
> > > `Bz1234MyNewProtocol.h` Private header files do not need the prefix.
> > >
> > > ### Contents
> > >
> > > The tagging must follow the coding style used by each affected codebase.
> > > Examples:
> > >
> > > | Released in spec      | Draft version in tree       | Comment                |
> > > | ---                   | ---                         | ---                    |
> > > | `FunctionName`        | `Bz1234FunctionName`        |                        |
> > > | `HEADER_MACRO`        | `BZ1234_HEADER_MACRO`       |                        |
> >
> > If FunctionName or HEADER_MACRO is defined in non-public header files,
> > I don't think they require the prefix. Do you agree?
> >
> > > For data structures or enums, any new or non-backwards-compatible
> > > structs or fields require a prefix. As above, growing an existing
> > > array in an existing struct requires no prefix.
> > >
> > > | `typedef SOME_STRUCT` | `BZ1234_SOME_STRUCT`        | Typedef only
> > [2]       |
> > > | `StructField`         | `Bz1234StructField`         | In existing struct[3]  |
> > > | `typedef SOME_ENUM`   | `BZ1234_SOME_ENUM`          | Typedef only
> > [2]       |
> > >
> > > [2] If the struct or enum definition is separate from the typedef in
> > > the
> > public
> > >     header, the definition does not need the prefix.
> >
> > What does "separate" mean?
> > Does it mean "struct or enum in the public header BzXXX.h don't need
> > the prefix"?
> > If yes, then I think macros defined in BzXXX.h also don't need the prefix.
> >
> > > [3] Individual fields in newly added typedefd struct do not need prefix,
> the
> > >     struct already carried the prefix.
> > >
> > > Variable prefixes indicating global scope ('g' or 'm') go before the BZ
> prefix.
> > >
> > > | `gSomeGuid`           | `gBz1234SomeGuid`           |                        |
> > >
> > > Local identifiers, including module-global ones (m-prefixed) do not
> > > require a BZ prefix.
> >
> > I think only the names (struct type name, enum type name, interface
> > name, protocol/ppi name) defined in public header files need the BZ
> > prefix when the public header doesn't have prefix.
> > Right?
> >
>
> The way I read it, *all* new (and non-backward modified) identifiers
> (typedef struct, typedef enum, and new structfield in existing struct) need to
> be pre-fixed, regardless if the filename is prefixed or not.
> Correct?
>
> >
> >
>
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* Re: [edk2-devel] [edk2-rfc] [RFCv2] code-first process for UEFI-forum specifications
       [not found] ` <1610B54128789A26.14697@groups.io>
@ 2020-06-12  4:39   ` Samer El-Haj-Mahmoud
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From: Samer El-Haj-Mahmoud @ 2020-06-12  4:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: devel@edk2.groups.io, rfc@edk2.groups.io, ray.ni@intel.com,
	leif@nuviainc.com
  Cc: Felixp@ami.com, Doran, Mark, Andrew Fish, Laszlo Ersek,
	Kinney, Michael D, Dong Wei, Samer El-Haj-Mahmoud

Leif,

I received additional feedback on this proposal.

We should add the UEFI Shell Specification to this new process. This includes adding a bugzilla.tianocore.org product category and a new Github repository for the "UEFI Shell Specification".

Thanks,
--Samer

> -----Original Message-----
> From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Samer El-
> Haj-Mahmoud via groups.io
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 6:19 AM
> To: rfc@edk2.groups.io; Samer El-Haj-Mahmoud <Samer.El-Haj-
> Mahmoud@arm.com>; ray.ni@intel.com; leif@nuviainc.com;
> devel@edk2.groups.io
> Cc: Felixp@ami.com; Doran, Mark <mark.doran@intel.com>; Andrew Fish
> <afish@apple.com>; Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>; Kinney, Michael D
> <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; Samer El-Haj-Mahmoud <Samer.El-Haj-
> Mahmoud@arm.com>
> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [edk2-rfc] [RFCv2] code-first process for UEFI-forum
> specifications
>
> Are there any additional comments on the code first process for UEFI
> specifications?
>
> When should we expect the process to *actually* start being used?
>
> Thanks,
> --Samer
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rfc@edk2.groups.io <rfc@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Samer
> > El-Haj- Mahmoud via groups.io
> > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 5:11 PM
> > To: rfc@edk2.groups.io; ray.ni@intel.com; leif@nuviainc.com;
> > devel@edk2.groups.io
> > Cc: Felixp@ami.com; Doran, Mark <mark.doran@intel.com>; Andrew Fish
> > <afish@apple.com>; Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>; Kinney, Michael D
> > <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; Samer El-Haj-Mahmoud <Samer.El-Haj-
> > Mahmoud@arm.com>
> > Subject: Re: [edk2-rfc] [RFCv2] code-first process for UEFI-forum
> > specifications
> >
> > Leif, Ray,
> >
> > I have not seen any discussion on this thread since March(!)...
> >
> > Please see my comments below.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rfc@edk2.groups.io <rfc@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ni, Ray
> > > via Groups.Io
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:15 AM
> > > To: rfc@edk2.groups.io; leif@nuviainc.com; devel@edk2.groups.io
> > > Cc: Felixp@ami.com; Doran, Mark <mark.doran@intel.com>; Andrew Fish
> > > <afish@apple.com>; Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>; Kinney, Michael
> > > D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [edk2-rfc] [RFCv2] code-first process for UEFI-forum
> > > specifications
> > >
> > > >
> > > > ## Github
> > > > New repositories will be added for holding the text changes and
> > > > the source
> > > code.
> > > >
> > > > Specification text changes will be held within the affected source
> > > > repository, in the Github flavour of markdown, in a file (or split
> > > > across several files) with .md suffix.
> > >
> > > What's the case when multiple .MD files are needed?
> > >
> > > > (This one may break down where we have a specification change
> > > > affecting multiple specifications, but at that point we can track
> > > > it with multiple BZ entries)
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ## Source code
> > > > In order to ensure draft code does not accidentally leak into
> > > > production use, and to signify when the changeover from draft to
> > > > final happens, *all* new or modified[1] identifiers need to be
> > > > prefixed with the
> > > relevant BZ####.
> > > >
> > > > [1] Modified in a non-backwards-compatible way. If, for example, a
> > > statically
> > > >     sized array is grown - this does not need to be prefixed. But
> > > > a tag in a comment would be *highly* recommended.
> > >
> > > If a protocol is enhanced to provide more interfaces with increased
> > > revision number, would you like the protocol name to be prefixed
> > > with
> > BZ####?
> > > Or just the new interfaces added to the protocol are prefixed the BZ####?
> > > I think just prefixing the new interfaces can meet the purpose.
> > >
> >
> > I think pre-fixing the new interfaces is sufficient. Otherwise, you
> > need to modify all code using the existing interfaces (for build
> > verification)
> >
> >
> > > But the protocol definition is changed, it also needs to be prefixed
> > > according to this flow.
> > > Can you clarify a bit more?
> > >
> >
> > A changed protocol definition is not backwards compatible, and
> > typically results in a new protocol GUID. In that case, it really
> > becomes a new definition and need to be pre-fixed per this rule. Right?
> >
> > > >
> > > > ### File names
> > > > New public header files need the prefix. I.e.
> > > > `Bz1234MyNewProtocol.h` Private header files do not need the prefix.
> > > >
> > > > ### Contents
> > > >
> > > > The tagging must follow the coding style used by each affected codebase.
> > > > Examples:
> > > >
> > > > | Released in spec      | Draft version in tree       | Comment                |
> > > > | ---                   | ---                         | ---                    |
> > > > | `FunctionName`        | `Bz1234FunctionName`        |                        |
> > > > | `HEADER_MACRO`        | `BZ1234_HEADER_MACRO`       |
> |
> > >
> > > If FunctionName or HEADER_MACRO is defined in non-public header
> > > files, I don't think they require the prefix. Do you agree?
> > >
> > > > For data structures or enums, any new or non-backwards-compatible
> > > > structs or fields require a prefix. As above, growing an existing
> > > > array in an existing struct requires no prefix.
> > > >
> > > > | `typedef SOME_STRUCT` | `BZ1234_SOME_STRUCT`        | Typedef only
> > > [2]       |
> > > > | `StructField`         | `Bz1234StructField`         | In existing struct[3]  |
> > > > | `typedef SOME_ENUM`   | `BZ1234_SOME_ENUM`          | Typedef only
> > > [2]       |
> > > >
> > > > [2] If the struct or enum definition is separate from the typedef
> > > > in the
> > > public
> > > >     header, the definition does not need the prefix.
> > >
> > > What does "separate" mean?
> > > Does it mean "struct or enum in the public header BzXXX.h don't need
> > > the prefix"?
> > > If yes, then I think macros defined in BzXXX.h also don't need the prefix.
> > >
> > > > [3] Individual fields in newly added typedefd struct do not need
> > > > prefix,
> > the
> > > >     struct already carried the prefix.
> > > >
> > > > Variable prefixes indicating global scope ('g' or 'm') go before
> > > > the BZ
> > prefix.
> > > >
> > > > | `gSomeGuid`           | `gBz1234SomeGuid`           |                        |
> > > >
> > > > Local identifiers, including module-global ones (m-prefixed) do
> > > > not require a BZ prefix.
> > >
> > > I think only the names (struct type name, enum type name, interface
> > > name, protocol/ppi name) defined in public header files need the BZ
> > > prefix when the public header doesn't have prefix.
> > > Right?
> > >
> >
> > The way I read it, *all* new (and non-backward modified) identifiers
> > (typedef struct, typedef enum, and new structfield in existing struct)
> > need to be pre-fixed, regardless if the filename is prefixed or not.
> > Correct?
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are
> > confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended
> > recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose
> > the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or
> > copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
> >
> >
>
> IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are
> confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient,
> please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any
> other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any
> medium. Thank you.
>
> 

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