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From: "Sami Mujawar" <sami.mujawar@arm.com>
To: "Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
	"devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
	"Xu, Min M" <min.m.xu@intel.com>
Cc: "Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	Liming Gao <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>,
	"Liu, Zhiguang" <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>,
	"Wang, Jian J" <jian.j.wang@intel.com>,
	"Lu, Ken" <ken.lu@intel.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 12:59:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DD115432-F8BC-4AC8-96FD-07C9D8C1F22B@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR11MB4885BA9767BECB7DEB1E8F898CB89@PH0PR11MB4885.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jiewen,

We don't have publicly available documentation to share in this area, however we strongly prefer an architecture agnostic solution, and my initial suggestions takes us in that direction. I am happy to work on mailing list with you to make these changes and review necessary code changes. Does that work for you?

Regards,

Sami Mujawar

On 14/10/2021, 17:01, "Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com> wrote:

    Hi Sami
    To clarify my description: 
    I am OK to define it in an architecture neutral protocol, such as EFI_TEE_MEASUREMENT_PROTOCOL, or EFI_CCAM_PROTOCOL. I am happy to do that.

    However, at current point of time, I am not sure how other arch supports those feature, such as
    AMD SEV (https://www.amd.com/system/files/TechDocs/56860.pdf), or ARM Realm (https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0615/latest/). I did not find runtime measurement there.

    I hope SEV/Realm people to propose what interface change is required. I am happy to discuss the solution here.

    Thank you
    Yao Jiewen


    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Yao, Jiewen
    > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:59 PM
    > To: Xu, Min M <min.m.xu@intel.com>; Sami Mujawar
    > <Sami.Mujawar@arm.com>; devel@edk2.groups.io
    > Cc: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; Liming Gao
    > <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>; Liu, Zhiguang <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>; Wang,
    > Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Lu, Ken <ken.lu@intel.com>; nd <nd@arm.com>
    > Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2
    > 
    > Hi Sami
    > I am not sure if I can understand your comment -
    > "Some interfaces may need to use an architecture specific library, and some
    > configuration options would need to be defined using PCDs."
    > 
    > Would you please be more specific?
    > 
    > Thank you
    > Yao Jiewen
    > 
    > 
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: Xu, Min M <min.m.xu@intel.com>
    > > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:41 PM
    > > To: Sami Mujawar <Sami.Mujawar@arm.com>; devel@edk2.groups.io; Yao,
    > > Jiewen <jiewen.yao@intel.com>
    > > Cc: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; Liming Gao
    > > <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>; Liu, Zhiguang <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>; Wang,
    > > Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Lu, Ken <ken.lu@intel.com>; nd
    > <nd@arm.com>
    > > Subject: RE: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2
    > >
    > > On October 12, 2021 11:27 PM, Sami Mujawar wrote:
    > > > Hi Min,
    > > >
    > > > Thank you for this patch.
    > > >
    > > > I think it would greatly help if the EFI_TD_PROTOCOL is changed to
    > something
    > > > more architecture neutral. As I understand, this patch series is removing the
    > > > dependency on TPM for measurement and is instead providing a lightweight
    > > > interface for extending measurements for Confidential Compute
    > Architecture
    > > > (CCA) guests.
    > > >
    > > > Considering this, it would be good to generalise EFI_TD_PROTOCOL as a
    > > > Confidential Compute Architecture Measurement (CCAM) protocol.
    > > > In fact, your v2 series demonstrates this need with the introduction of
    > > > MEASURE_BOOT_PROTOCOLS in "[PATCH V2 2/3] SecurityPkg: Support
    > > > TdProtocol in DxeTpm2MeasureBootLib
    > > > [https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/81651]".
    > > >
    > > > As it stands, I feel most of the code can be reused/common.  Some
    > interfaces
    > > > may need to use an architecture specific library, and some configuration
    > > > options would need to be defined using PCDs.
    > > >
    > > > Kindly let me know your thoughts.
    > > >
    > > Thanks for your comments.  Let me first discuss your feedback with our
    > > architecture. We will reply to your proposal a bit later.
    > >
    > > Thanks.
    > > Min
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 



  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-18 13:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-08  5:21 [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2 Min Xu
2021-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH V2 1/3] MdePkg: Introduce TdProtocol for TD-Guest firmware Min Xu
2021-10-11  1:37   ` 回复: " gaoliming
2021-10-19 13:21   ` [edk2-devel] " Sami Mujawar
2021-10-19 14:40     ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-10-20  9:26       ` Sami Mujawar
2021-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH V2 2/3] SecurityPkg: Support TdProtocol in DxeTpm2MeasureBootLib Min Xu
2021-10-19 13:22   ` [edk2-devel] " Sami Mujawar
2021-10-27  5:19     ` Min Xu
2021-11-01 13:35       ` Sami Mujawar
2021-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH V2 3/3] SecurityPkg: Support TdProtocol in DxeTpmMeasurementLib Min Xu
2021-10-19 13:24   ` [edk2-devel] " Sami Mujawar
2021-10-12 15:26 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2 Sami Mujawar
2021-10-14  5:41   ` Min Xu
2021-10-14 11:59     ` Yao, Jiewen
     [not found]     ` <16ADE3D948B3147A.7007@groups.io>
2021-10-14 13:43       ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-10-18 12:59         ` Sami Mujawar [this message]
2021-10-18 13:06           ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-10-19  9:51             ` Sami Mujawar
2021-10-19 13:06               ` Min Xu

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