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From: "Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
To: Felix Poludov <Felixp@ami.com>,
	"Gao, Liming" <liming.gao@intel.com>,
	"edk2-devel@lists.01.org" <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>,
	"Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED, multiply defined symbols, and MSFT/GCC tool chains.
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 16:06:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E92EE9817A31E24EB0585FDF735412F57D1611BE@ORSMSX113.amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9333E191E0D52B4999CE63A99BA663A002DEEF1308@atlms1.us.megatrends.com>

Felix,

What is the condition that will fail if /Gw is set and 
GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED is defined to nothing?

If these are real bugs, then I think we should identify those
bugs and fix them and then apply this strong policy for newer
VS compilers.

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felix Poludov [mailto:Felixp@ami.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 8:59 AM
> To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; Gao, Liming
> <liming.gao@intel.com>; edk2-devel@lists.01.org
> Subject: RE: [RFC] GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED, multiply defined symbols, and
> MSFT/GCC tool chains.
> 
> Mike,
> 
> What do you think about defining GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED in the tool chain
> definition file as an empty macro for a newer VS compilers?
> If this is done, as Liming pointed out, some code that compiles today may break.
> If this is not done, variables declared with GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED are not
> subject to the default policy of breaking the build if multiple defined symbols are
> detected when MSFT tool chain is used.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kinney, Michael D [mailto:michael.d.kinney@intel.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 11:35 AM
> To: Felix Poludov; Gao, Liming; edk2-devel@lists.01.org; Kinney, Michael D
> Subject: RE: [RFC] GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED, multiply defined symbols, and
> MSFT/GCC tool chains.
> 
> Felix,
> 
> I prefer the default policy to break the build if multiple defined symbols are
> detected.
> 
> Exceptions should only be allowed to support a specific compiler or a specific level
> of compiler optimizations.
> 
> I do like the addition of the /Gw switch to the newer VS compilers.  Adding the
> current GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED macro to global variable declarations is a
> manual process that usually requires inspection of PE/COFF images to notice that data
> that should have been optimized away is still present.
> 
> Adding the #ifndef also looks like a good way to adopt the /Gw switch in newer VS
> Compilers and preserve backwards compatibility with older VS compilers.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of
> > Felix Poludov
> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 7:59 AM
> > To: Gao, Liming <liming.gao@intel.com>; edk2-devel@lists.01.org
> > Subject: Re: [edk2] [RFC] GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED, multiply
> > defined symbols, and MSFT/GCC tool chains.
> >
> > Liming,
> >
> > Yes surrounding GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED with #ifndef would be an improvement.
> > Can you make this change?
> >
> > On the other note, don't you think that EDKII should have a generic
> > policy regarding multiply defined symbols (whether they are allowed or not)?
> > Today, they may or may not work depending on the compiler used.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gao, Liming [mailto:liming.gao@intel.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 12:49 AM
> > To: Felix Poludov; edk2-devel@lists.01.org
> > Cc: Gao, Liming
> > Subject: RE: [RFC] GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED, multiply defined
> > symbols, and MSFT/GCC tool chains.
> >
> > Felix:
> >   This changes the default MSFT build behavior. It will impact all
> > platforms even if this platform has no requirement to pass GCC build.
> > I suggest to update platform DSC to enable it in MSFT tool chain if this platform
> needs to support MSFT and GCC both.
> >
> > In Base.h: I agree to define GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED only when
> > it is not defined. Then, Platform.dsc can append compiler option /D
> > GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERE to the different value in [BuildOptions] section.
> >
> > #ifndef GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED
> >   #define GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED __declspec(selectany) #endif
> >
> > Thanks
> > Liming
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org] On Behalf
> > >Of Felix Poludov
> > >Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 8:53 PM
> > >To: edk2-devel@lists.01.org
> > >Subject: [edk2] [RFC] GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED, multiply defined
> > >symbols, and MSFT/GCC tool chains.
> > >
> > >Trying to add GCC support to projects based on MSFT tool chain, I'm
> > >keep stumbling into multiply defined symbol errors reported by GCC linker.
> > >An attempt to understand why the errors are not reported by the
> > >Microsoft linker lead me to GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED macro.
> > >The purpose of the macro is to enable link time optimization of
> > >global variables.
> > >However, the way it's defined for MSFT tool chain
> > >(__declspec(selectany) ) has a side effect of explicitly allowing
> > >multiple instances of a symbol defined with GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED.
> > >For a while usage of the macro was the only option to enable global
> > >variable optimization.
> > >Starting from VS2013 compiler supports /Gw flag that enables global
> > >variable optimization without a special declarator.
> > >
> > >I propose to make the following modifications:
> > >
> > >1.      Change GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED definition to an empty
> > >macro.
> > >
> > >Or more specifically, update macro definition in Base.h as follows:
> > >
> > >#ifndef GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED
> > >
> > >#define GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED
> > >
> > >#endif
> > >
> > >2.      Update VS2013 and VS2015 compiler flags to add /Gw option
> > >
> > >3.      Update compiler flags for older MSFT tool chains to define
> > >GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED in a backward compatible manner for
> > >targets that enable optimization.
> > >
> > >/D GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED =_declspec(selectany)
> > >
> > >
> > >The advantages of these modifications are:
> > >
> > >-        Better detection of on potential errors by breaking the build when
> > >symbol is defined more than once.
> > >
> > >-        Improved consistency between MSFT and GCC tool chains
> > >
> > >-        Improved link time optimization with VS2013 and newer MSFT tool chains.
> > >
> > >For example, mGaugeData in
> > >MdeModulePkg/Library/DxeCorePerformanceLib/DxeCorePerformanceLib.c
> > >is not declared as GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED, so
> > >
> > >today performance library is linked with DXE Core even when
> > >performance measurements are disabled.
> > >
> > >The alternative option is to enable support of multiply defined
> > >symbols on GCC tool chain.
> > >One way to do it is by defining the macro as #define
> > >GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED __attribute__((weak))
> > >
> > >However, I'm not sure that embracing multiple symbol definitions is a
> > >good idea.
> > >For example, see Ard's arguments in this commit comment
> > >https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/commit/214a3b79417f64bf2faae74af42c
> > >1
> > >b9d23f50dc8
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >Felix
> > >
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-27 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-24 12:53 [RFC] GLOBAL_REMOVE_IF_UNREFERENCED, multiply defined symbols, and MSFT/GCC tool chains Felix Poludov
2017-03-24 17:32 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-24 17:57   ` Felix Poludov
2017-03-27  4:49 ` Gao, Liming
2017-03-27 14:58   ` Felix Poludov
2017-03-27 15:35     ` Kinney, Michael D
2017-03-27 15:39       ` Andrew Fish
2017-03-27 15:58       ` Felix Poludov
2017-03-27 16:06         ` Kinney, Michael D [this message]
2017-03-27 16:16           ` Felix Poludov
2017-03-27 17:06             ` Kinney, Michael D
2017-03-28  5:01               ` Gao, Liming
2017-03-28  6:00                 ` Kinney, Michael D

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