Re: ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel mailing list configuration changes

["Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>]

Hi Leif,

I can put the reply_goes_to_list option back to "Poster".

In that configuration, a user that has a DMARC policy of
reject will still have their from address munged.

But I noticed that the edk2-devel mailing list is not
present when anyone does a Reply-all to an email with
a munged from address.  That implied to me that everyone
would need to check if the edk2-devel mailing has been
removed from a Reply-all and add it back manually.  This
also seems like a non-ideal configuration option.

However, the behavior I am seeing could be due to some
of my client settings.

So I will put the reply_goes_to_list option back to
"Poster".

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leif Lindholm [mailto:leif.lindholm@linaro.org]
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 2:10 PM
> To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> Cc: EDK II Development <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>;
> Cetola, Stephano <stephano.cetola@intel.com>
> Subject: Re: [edk2] ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel mailing list
> configuration changes
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> I could hypothesise about which email client you may be
> using :)
> 
> But let me instead mention that the two email clients I
> have (mutt and
> gmail web interface) behave identically - neither adds
> the original
> sender to cc when the list server forces a reply-to
> header.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Leif
> 
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 08:49:09PM +0000, Kinney,
> Michael D wrote:
> > Leif,
> >
> > Very strange.  When I do the same on that email, it
> > shows Paul on the To address line.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Leif Lindholm
> [mailto:leif.lindholm@linaro.org]
> > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 1:40 PM
> > > To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> > > Cc: EDK II Development <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>;
> > > Cetola, Stephano <stephano.cetola@intel.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [edk2] ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel mailing
> list
> > > configuration changes
> > >
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > > When I try to "reply-to", the email from Paul A
> Lohr,
> > > sent 10 minutes
> > > after your one below, he does not show up in either
> "to"
> > > or "cc".
> > >
> > > OK, I missed the excitement during the plugfest.
> I'll go
> > > back and see
> > > what I can find there.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Leif
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 08:23:43PM +0000, Kinney,
> > > Michael D wrote:
> > > > Leif,
> > > >
> > > > I have enabled a different configuration setting
> > > > that should be better.
> > > >
> > > > Please try some emails and let me know if there
> > > > are any impacts.
> > > >
> > > > The reason for these changes is the DMARC related
> > > > issue that occurred on 10-19-2018 that required a
> > > > number of users to be disabled.  The goal of these
> > > > changes is to enable those users to be re-
> activated.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Leif Lindholm
> > > [mailto:leif.lindholm@linaro.org]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 12:54 PM
> > > > > To: EDK II Development <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>
> > > > > Cc: Kinney, Michael D
> <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>;
> > > > > Cetola, Stephano <stephano.cetola@intel.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [edk2] ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel
> mailing
> > > list
> > > > > configuration changes
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 06:42:44PM +0000,
> Kinney,
> > > > > Michael D wrote:
> > > > > > Some configuration changes have been made to
> > > > > > the edk2-devel mailing list to handle posts
> from
> > > > > > a domain with a DMARC Reject/Quarantine policy
> > > > > > enabled. If this is detected then the from
> address
> > > > > > is now munged.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One side effect of this setting is that the
> > > > > > behavior of Reply has changed.  Instead of
> being
> > > > > > a reply to the poster of the message, the
> Reply
> > > > > > address is the edk2-devel mailing list.
> > > > >
> > > > > The behaviour looks somewhat broken, since as
> far as
> > > I
> > > > > can tell,
> > > > > replies now longer include the person you're
> > > replying
> > > > > to.
> > > > > (This doesn't happen when replying specifically
> to
> > > > > _you_, because you
> > > > > cc yourself on everything).
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you wish to send a private reply to only
> the
> > > > > > poster of the message, you may have to perform
> > > > > > some manual steps.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please let me know if you have any concerns
> about
> > > > > > these changes or if these configuration
> changes
> > > > > > cause any other side effects.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can we make sure the person being replied to is
> at
> > > least
> > > > > on cc?
> > > > > Otherwise, we've just broken the workflow for
> anyone
> > > > > filtering on
> > > > > whether they are on "to" or "cc".
> > > > >
> > > > > Why was this change necessary?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Leif