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* FW: Question regarding CMOS regions.
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@ 2018-08-14  3:47     ` MohammadYounasKhan.P
  2018-08-16  4:44       ` MohammadYounasKhan.P
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From: MohammadYounasKhan.P @ 2018-08-14  3:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: edk2-devel

Hi All,

As we know CMOS data can be 128 or 256 bytes. CMOS lower 128 bytes are stored in IO ports 0x70-0x71 whereas CMOS upper 128 bytes are stored using IO ports 0x72-0x73.

  1.  How to know that the system has 128bytes of CMOS or 256 bytes of CMOS region?
  2.  Is there any CMOS location which represents CMOS upper region is exists or valid or any other mechanism for it?
  3.  Are we replicating lower 128 bytes to upper 128 bytes in CMOS location 0x70-0x71 (or 0x72-0x73)? If yes, Why are we doing that?

Thank you,
Younas.


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* Re: Question regarding CMOS regions.
  2018-08-14  3:47     ` FW: Question regarding CMOS regions MohammadYounasKhan.P
@ 2018-08-16  4:44       ` MohammadYounasKhan.P
  2018-08-16  6:08         ` Ni, Ruiyu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: MohammadYounasKhan.P @ 2018-08-16  4:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: edk2-devel

Hi Guys,

Please help to reply to my below queries.

Thank you,
Younas.

-----Original Message-----
From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of Pathan, MohammadYounasKhan
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 9:17 AM
To: edk2-devel@lists.01.org
Subject: [edk2] FW: Question regarding CMOS regions.

Hi All,

As we know CMOS data can be 128 or 256 bytes. CMOS lower 128 bytes are stored in IO ports 0x70-0x71 whereas CMOS upper 128 bytes are stored using IO ports 0x72-0x73.

  1.  How to know that the system has 128bytes of CMOS or 256 bytes of CMOS region?
  2.  Is there any CMOS location which represents CMOS upper region is exists or valid or any other mechanism for it?
  3.  Are we replicating lower 128 bytes to upper 128 bytes in CMOS location 0x70-0x71 (or 0x72-0x73)? If yes, Why are we doing that?

Thank you,
Younas.
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* Re: Question regarding CMOS regions.
  2018-08-16  4:44       ` MohammadYounasKhan.P
@ 2018-08-16  6:08         ` Ni, Ruiyu
  2018-08-16  6:28           ` MohammadYounasKhan.P
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Ni, Ruiyu @ 2018-08-16  6:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: MohammadYounasKhan.P@Dell.com, edk2-devel@lists.01.org

Younas,
Why are you still working on CMOS in now UEFI world?
Detailed answer is in below.

Thanks/Ray

> -----Original Message-----
> From: edk2-devel <edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org> On Behalf Of
> MohammadYounasKhan.P@Dell.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:44 PM
> To: edk2-devel@lists.01.org
> Subject: Re: [edk2] Question regarding CMOS regions.
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Please help to reply to my below queries.
> 
> Thank you,
> Younas.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of
> Pathan, MohammadYounasKhan
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 9:17 AM
> To: edk2-devel@lists.01.org
> Subject: [edk2] FW: Question regarding CMOS regions.
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> As we know CMOS data can be 128 or 256 bytes. CMOS lower 128 bytes are
> stored in IO ports 0x70-0x71 whereas CMOS upper 128 bytes are stored using IO
> ports 0x72-0x73.
> 
>   1.  How to know that the system has 128bytes of CMOS or 256 bytes of CMOS
> region?
You could read the data to know whether high 128 bytes are valid or not.

>   2.  Is there any CMOS location which represents CMOS upper region is exists or
> valid or any other mechanism for it?
Refer to #1.
>   3.  Are we replicating lower 128 bytes to upper 128 bytes in CMOS location
> 0x70-0x71 (or 0x72-0x73)? If yes, Why are we doing that?
It depends on BIOS implementation. I don't see any bios is duplicating the contents.
> 
> Thank you,
> Younas.
> _______________________________________________
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* Re: Question regarding CMOS regions.
  2018-08-16  6:08         ` Ni, Ruiyu
@ 2018-08-16  6:28           ` MohammadYounasKhan.P
  2018-08-16  6:59             ` Ramesh R.
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: MohammadYounasKhan.P @ 2018-08-16  6:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruiyu.ni, edk2-devel

Thanks Ruiyu.

I have some inconsistencies with CMOS regions. Even EDKII uses some CMOS regions.

I have attached the CMOS dump took using RW tool below:
Type:ISA   Port 0070,0071
Width:01
00=56 01=17 02=45 03=17 04=11 05=15 06=04 07=16 
08=08 09=18 0A=26 0B=02 0C=50 0D=80 0E=00 0F=00 
10=00 11=00 12=00 13=00 14=00 15=7B 16=02 17=FF 
18=FF 19=00 1A=00 1B=00 1C=00 1D=00 1E=00 1F=00 
20=00 21=00 22=00 23=00 24=00 25=00 26=00 27=00 
28=00 29=00 2A=00 2B=00 2C=00 2D=00 2E=02 2F=7B 
30=FF 31=FF 32=20 33=00 34=00 35=9D 36=0B 37=00 
38=00 39=00 3A=00 3B=00 3C=00 3D=00 3E=00 3F=00 
40=00 41=00 42=CA 43=B8 44=6C 45=58 46=00 47=00 
48=00 49=00 4A=00 4B=00 4C=00 4D=00 4E=00 4F=00 
50=00 51=00 52=00 53=00 54=03 55=00 56=00 57=00 
58=00 59=00 5A=00 5B=00 5C=00 5D=00 5E=00 5F=00 
60=00 61=00 62=00 63=00 64=00 65=00 66=00 67=00 
68=00 69=00 6A=00 6B=00 6C=01 6D=00 6E=00 6F=A5 
70=00 71=00 72=00 73=00 74=00 75=00 76=00 77=00 
78=00 79=5F 7A=00 7B=00 7C=00 7D=00 7E=00 7F=00 
80=56 81=17 82=45 83=17 84=11 85=15 86=04 87=16 
88=08 89=18 8A=26 8B=02 8C=40 8D=80 8E=00 8F=00 
90=00 91=00 92=00 93=00 94=00 95=7B 96=02 97=FF 
98=FF 99=00 9A=00 9B=00 9C=00 9D=00 9E=00 9F=00 
A0=00 A1=00 A2=00 A3=00 A4=00 A5=00 A6=00 A7=00 
A8=00 A9=00 AA=00 AB=00 AC=00 AD=00 AE=02 AF=7B 
B0=FF B1=FF B2=20 B3=00 B4=00 B5=9D B6=0B B7=00 
B8=00 B9=00 BA=00 BB=00 BC=00 BD=00 BE=00 BF=00 
C0=00 C1=00 C2=CA C3=B8 C4=6C C5=58 C6=00 C7=00 
C8=00 C9=00 CA=00 CB=00 CC=00 CD=00 CE=00 CF=00 
D0=00 D1=00 D2=00 D3=00 D4=03 D5=00 D6=00 D7=00 
D8=00 D9=00 DA=00 DB=00 DC=00 DD=00 DE=00 DF=00 
E0=00 E1=00 E2=00 E3=00 E4=00 E5=00 E6=00 E7=00 
E8=00 E9=00 EA=00 EB=00 EC=01 ED=00 EE=00 EF=A5 
F0=00 F1=00 F2=00 F3=00 F4=00 F5=00 F6=00 F7=00 
F8=00 F9=5F FA=00 FB=00 FC=00 FD=00 FE=00 FF=00

I have update my queries below.

Thank you,
Younas.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ni, Ruiyu [mailto:ruiyu.ni@intel.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 11:38 AM
To: Pathan, MohammadYounasKhan; edk2-devel@lists.01.org
Subject: RE: Question regarding CMOS regions.

Younas,
Why are you still working on CMOS in now UEFI world?
Detailed answer is in below.

Thanks/Ray

> -----Original Message-----
> From: edk2-devel <edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org> On Behalf Of 
> MohammadYounasKhan.P@Dell.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:44 PM
> To: edk2-devel@lists.01.org
> Subject: Re: [edk2] Question regarding CMOS regions.
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Please help to reply to my below queries.
> 
> Thank you,
> Younas.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of 
> Pathan, MohammadYounasKhan
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 9:17 AM
> To: edk2-devel@lists.01.org
> Subject: [edk2] FW: Question regarding CMOS regions.
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> As we know CMOS data can be 128 or 256 bytes. CMOS lower 128 bytes are 
> stored in IO ports 0x70-0x71 whereas CMOS upper 128 bytes are stored 
> using IO ports 0x72-0x73.
> 
>   1.  How to know that the system has 128bytes of CMOS or 256 bytes of 
> CMOS region?
You could read the data to know whether high 128 bytes are valid or not.
[Younas]: How to check the validity of data?

>   2.  Is there any CMOS location which represents CMOS upper region is 
> exists or valid or any other mechanism for it?
Refer to #1.
[Younas]: CMOS upper region means port 0x72-0x73. Each IO port can store 256 bytes of data (0x00-0xFF). Default lower CMOS region has date and time and is valid always. But for upper CMOS region, I am not sure how to check whether it is valid or not?
>   3.  Are we replicating lower 128 bytes to upper 128 bytes in CMOS 
> location
> 0x70-0x71 (or 0x72-0x73)? If yes, Why are we doing that?
It depends on BIOS implementation. I don't see any bios is duplicating the contents.
[Younas]: You can refer to my CMOS dump copied above which shows upper 128bytes have same information as lower 128bytes (of port 0x70-0x71). I would like to know why we are doing this?
> 
> Thank you,
> Younas.
> _______________________________________________
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> edk2-devel@lists.01.org
> https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel
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* Re: Question regarding CMOS regions.
  2018-08-16  6:28           ` MohammadYounasKhan.P
@ 2018-08-16  6:59             ` Ramesh R.
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Ramesh R. @ 2018-08-16  6:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: MohammadYounasKhan.P@Dell.com, ruiyu.ni@intel.com,
	edk2-devel@lists.01.org

1) To check the Extended RAM validity.



*         Read the Offset 0 from Extended RTC Ram.

*         If no 0 value, extended RTC Ram is present.

*         If it's 0xFF, write some value to Offset 0

*         Read it back. If you get the value that you wrote, extended RTC RAM is present and preserve the old value again.

*         If you still get 0xFF, Extended RTC RAM is not present.



2) Extended RTC RAM is NOT duplicate of standard RTC RAM. It's up to BIOS vendor how they use it. May be BIOS uses the extended RTC RAM as duplicate copy of the standard RTC RAM.



Check the "Real Time Clock Registers" Section in the SB Spec.



Thanks,

Ramesh



-----Original Message-----
From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of MohammadYounasKhan.P@Dell.com
Sent: 16 August 2018 11:59
To: ruiyu.ni@intel.com; edk2-devel@lists.01.org
Subject: Re: [edk2] Question regarding CMOS regions.



Thanks Ruiyu.



I have some inconsistencies with CMOS regions. Even EDKII uses some CMOS regions.



I have attached the CMOS dump took using RW tool below:

Type:ISA   Port 0070,0071

Width:01

00=56 01=17 02=45 03=17 04=11 05=15 06=04 07=16

08=08 09=18 0A=26 0B=02 0C=50 0D=80 0E=00 0F=00

10=00 11=00 12=00 13=00 14=00 15=7B 16=02 17=FF 18=FF 19=00 1A=00 1B=00 1C=00 1D=00 1E=00 1F=00

20=00 21=00 22=00 23=00 24=00 25=00 26=00 27=00

28=00 29=00 2A=00 2B=00 2C=00 2D=00 2E=02 2F=7B 30=FF 31=FF 32=20 33=00 34=00 35=9D 36=0B 37=00

38=00 39=00 3A=00 3B=00 3C=00 3D=00 3E=00 3F=00

40=00 41=00 42=CA 43=B8 44=6C 45=58 46=00 47=00

48=00 49=00 4A=00 4B=00 4C=00 4D=00 4E=00 4F=00

50=00 51=00 52=00 53=00 54=03 55=00 56=00 57=00

58=00 59=00 5A=00 5B=00 5C=00 5D=00 5E=00 5F=00

60=00 61=00 62=00 63=00 64=00 65=00 66=00 67=00

68=00 69=00 6A=00 6B=00 6C=01 6D=00 6E=00 6F=A5

70=00 71=00 72=00 73=00 74=00 75=00 76=00 77=00

78=00 79=5F 7A=00 7B=00 7C=00 7D=00 7E=00 7F=00

80=56 81=17 82=45 83=17 84=11 85=15 86=04 87=16

88=08 89=18 8A=26 8B=02 8C=40 8D=80 8E=00 8F=00

90=00 91=00 92=00 93=00 94=00 95=7B 96=02 97=FF 98=FF 99=00 9A=00 9B=00 9C=00 9D=00 9E=00 9F=00

A0=00 A1=00 A2=00 A3=00 A4=00 A5=00 A6=00 A7=00

A8=00 A9=00 AA=00 AB=00 AC=00 AD=00 AE=02 AF=7B B0=FF B1=FF B2=20 B3=00 B4=00 B5=9D B6=0B B7=00

B8=00 B9=00 BA=00 BB=00 BC=00 BD=00 BE=00 BF=00

C0=00 C1=00 C2=CA C3=B8 C4=6C C5=58 C6=00 C7=00

C8=00 C9=00 CA=00 CB=00 CC=00 CD=00 CE=00 CF=00

D0=00 D1=00 D2=00 D3=00 D4=03 D5=00 D6=00 D7=00

D8=00 D9=00 DA=00 DB=00 DC=00 DD=00 DE=00 DF=00

E0=00 E1=00 E2=00 E3=00 E4=00 E5=00 E6=00 E7=00

E8=00 E9=00 EA=00 EB=00 EC=01 ED=00 EE=00 EF=A5

F0=00 F1=00 F2=00 F3=00 F4=00 F5=00 F6=00 F7=00

F8=00 F9=5F FA=00 FB=00 FC=00 FD=00 FE=00 FF=00



I have update my queries below.



Thank you,

Younas.

-----Original Message-----

From: Ni, Ruiyu [mailto:ruiyu.ni@intel.com]

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 11:38 AM

To: Pathan, MohammadYounasKhan; edk2-devel@lists.01.org<mailto:edk2-devel@lists.01.org>

Subject: RE: Question regarding CMOS regions.



Younas,

Why are you still working on CMOS in now UEFI world?

Detailed answer is in below.



Thanks/Ray



> -----Original Message-----

> From: edk2-devel <edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org<mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org>> On Behalf Of

> MohammadYounasKhan.P@Dell.com<mailto:MohammadYounasKhan.P@Dell.com>

> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:44 PM

> To: edk2-devel@lists.01.org<mailto:edk2-devel@lists.01.org>

> Subject: Re: [edk2] Question regarding CMOS regions.

>

> Hi Guys,

>

> Please help to reply to my below queries.

>

> Thank you,

> Younas.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of

> Pathan, MohammadYounasKhan

> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 9:17 AM

> To: edk2-devel@lists.01.org<mailto:edk2-devel@lists.01.org>

> Subject: [edk2] FW: Question regarding CMOS regions.

>

> Hi All,

>

> As we know CMOS data can be 128 or 256 bytes. CMOS lower 128 bytes are

> stored in IO ports 0x70-0x71 whereas CMOS upper 128 bytes are stored

> using IO ports 0x72-0x73.

>

>   1.  How to know that the system has 128bytes of CMOS or 256 bytes of

> CMOS region?

You could read the data to know whether high 128 bytes are valid or not.

[Younas]: How to check the validity of data?



>   2.  Is there any CMOS location which represents CMOS upper region is

> exists or valid or any other mechanism for it?

Refer to #1.

[Younas]: CMOS upper region means port 0x72-0x73. Each IO port can store 256 bytes of data (0x00-0xFF). Default lower CMOS region has date and time and is valid always. But for upper CMOS region, I am not sure how to check whether it is valid or not?

>   3.  Are we replicating lower 128 bytes to upper 128 bytes in CMOS

> location

> 0x70-0x71 (or 0x72-0x73)? If yes, Why are we doing that?

It depends on BIOS implementation. I don't see any bios is duplicating the contents.

[Younas]: You can refer to my CMOS dump copied above which shows upper 128bytes have same information as lower 128bytes (of port 0x70-0x71). I would like to know why we are doing this?

>

> Thank you,

> Younas.

> _______________________________________________

> edk2-devel mailing list

> edk2-devel@lists.01.org<mailto:edk2-devel@lists.01.org>

> https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel

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