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From: "Michael D Kinney" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
To: "devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
	"lersek@redhat.com" <lersek@redhat.com>,
	Vitaly Cheptsov <cheptsov@ispras.ru>,
	"Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
Cc: "Andrew Fish" <afish@apple.com>,
	"Marvin Häuser" <mhaeuser@outlook.de>,
	"Gao, Liming" <liming.gao@intel.com>,
	"Gao, Zhichao" <zhichao.gao@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V4 00/27] Disabling safe string constraint assertions
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 18:18:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <MN2PR11MB44618F21D9B49CF915B69142D2BE0@MN2PR11MB4461.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44ac1ca1-953a-21a2-0c9e-c83aca153b0b@redhat.com>

Laszlo,

A library implementation that uses another library class
lists those library classes in the library INF.  This is 
a way a module can inherit the use of a second lib without
listing the second lib in the module INF.  This is the
type of inheritance that is supported by the EDK II build
system and the EDK II meta data files.

What is not supported today is indirect inheritance from
the libclass .h file itself.  There is no mechanism for 
the libclass .h file to declare it is using another library
class.  This would require extensions to the meta data 
files to declare this type dependency.

How does the build system know to add DebugCommonLib to
the link command for a module that only lists DebugLib
in its library classes section?  What if there is a 
DebugLib implementation of the DebugLib class that 
does not depend on DebugCommonLib.  The module link
will then fail when the module writer followed all the
rules.  This is why including a libclass from another
libclass is bad idea.

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io> On
> Behalf Of Laszlo Ersek
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 2:51 AM
> To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>;
> Vitaly Cheptsov <cheptsov@ispras.ru>;
> devel@edk2.groups.io
> Cc: Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>; Marvin Häuser
> <mhaeuser@outlook.de>; Gao, Liming
> <liming.gao@intel.com>; Gao, Zhichao
> <zhichao.gao@intel.com>
> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V4 00/27] Disabling
> safe string constraint assertions
> 
> On 05/12/20 00:40, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
> > Vitaly,
> >
> > Thank you for the contribution.
> >
> > There are a couple points about this approach that
> need to be discussed.
> >
> > You have included the <Library/DebugCommonLib.h> from
> > MdePkg/Include/Library/DebugLib.h.
> 
> Right, I've noticed it. I agree it's unusual. I didn't
> think it was wrong.
> 
> > It is very rare for a
> > lib class to include another lib class.  This means
> that a module
> > that has a dependency on the DebugLib class inherits
> a hidden
> > dependency on the DebugCommonLib class.
> 
> I agree.
> 
> I think it should be fine. Any header H1 should include
> such further
> headers H2, H3, ... Hn that are required for making the
> interfaces
> declared in H1 usable in client modules.
> 
> > For module INF files,
> > we require the INF file to list all the lib classes
> that the
> > module sources directly use.
> 
> Yes, keyword being "directly".
> 
> > Since a module that uses the
> > DebugLib uses the ASSERT() and DEBUG() macros, all
> the APIs
> > that the ASSERT() and DEBUG() macros use are also
> directly
> > used by the module.
> 
> I believe this is where I disagree. The replacement
> texts of the
> ASSERT() and DEBUG() function-like macros are internals
> of the
> DebugLib.h lib class header, in my opinion. Those
> internals place
> requirements on specific DebugLib instances, not on
> DebugLib class
> consumers.
> 
> In other words, when writing a new DebugLib instance,
> the implementor
> has to ensure that the ASSERT() and DEBUG() macros, as
> defined in the
> DebugLib class header, will continue working in
> DebugLib consumer
> modules. The implementor may then choose to make the
> new DebugLib
> instance dependent on the (singleton) DebugCommonLib
> instance, for
> example. (This is being done in patches #3, #4, #16,
> maybe more.) The
> DebugLib consumer module will inherit that dependency,
> and everything
> will work.
> 
> Just because ASSERT() and DEBUG() are function-like
> macros and not
> actual functions, I don't think the INF file
> requirements in
> DebugLib-consumer modules should change.
> 
> > With this patch series, these macros
> > now use the DebugCommonLib class APIs, which means
> any module
> > that uses the DebugLib also directly uses the
> DebugCommonLib.
> 
> In my opinion: indirectly.
> 
> Thanks,
> Laszlo
> 
> 
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-12 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-11 15:40 [PATCH V4 00/27] Disabling safe string constraint assertions Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:40 ` [PATCH V4 01/27] MdePkg: Introduce DebugCommonLib interface and BaseDebugCommonLib Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 20:37   ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-11 20:42   ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-11 15:40 ` [PATCH V4 02/27] UnitTestFrameworkPkg: Add support for DebugCommonLib Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:40 ` [PATCH V4 03/27] MdePkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:40 ` [PATCH V4 04/27] MdeModulePkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:40 ` [PATCH V4 05/27] ArmPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 06/27] ArmPlatformPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 07/27] ArmVirtPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 20:42   ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 08/27] CryptoPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 09/27] DynamicTablesPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 10/27] EmbeddedPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 11/27] EmulatorPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 12/27] FatPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 13/27] FmpDevicePkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 14/27] IntelFsp2Pkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-12  0:49   ` [edk2-devel] " Chiu, Chasel
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 15/27] IntelFsp2WrapperPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-12  0:47   ` [edk2-devel] " Chiu, Chasel
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 16/27] OvmfPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 20:49   ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 17/27] NetworkPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 18/27] ShellPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 19/27] SecurityPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 20/27] PcAtChipsetPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 21/27] SignedCapsulePkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 22/27] SourceLevelDebugPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 23/27] StandaloneMmPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 24/27] UefiCpuPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 20:52   ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 25/27] UefiPayloadPkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 26/27] MdePkg: Introduce assertion on constraint debug mask bit Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 20:58   ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-11 22:12     ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-11 15:41 ` [PATCH V4 27/27] MdePkg: Use assertion on constraint violation bit in SafeString Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-11 21:04   ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-11 22:40 ` [PATCH V4 00/27] Disabling safe string constraint assertions Michael D Kinney
2020-05-12  9:50   ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-12 17:03     ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-12 18:18     ` Michael D Kinney [this message]
2020-05-12 18:57       ` [edk2-devel] " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-13 17:59         ` Liming Gao
2020-05-13 18:37           ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-05-13  9:16       ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-05-13 14:41         ` [EXTERNAL] " Bret Barkelew
2020-05-13 20:14           ` Brian J. Johnson

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