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From: "Ni, Ray" <ray.ni@intel.com>
To: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	"devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
	"Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	"Gao, Liming" <liming.gao@intel.com>,
	"Liu, Zhiguang" <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>,
	"Dong, Eric" <eric.dong@intel.com>,
	"Kumar, Rahul R" <rahul.r.kumar@intel.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>
Cc: Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/2] UefiCpuPkg/MpInitLib: Use AsmCpuidEx() for CPUID_EXTENDED_TOPOLOGY leaf
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2024 03:00:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <MN6PR11MB82446E03245943152098B5508C762@MN6PR11MB8244.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <72123232-5a27-7778-591d-69fc7fda0881@amd.com>

> The worry I have here is that it becomes a maintenance concern having to
> update the list of leaves with sub-leaves whenever a new CPUID leaf with
> sub-leaves is introduced.

Intel SDM or AMD equivalent "SDM" should not change a CPUID leaf in a way
that it does not consume ECX today but consume it tomorrow.
This is a non-backward compatible instruction change.

With that, it's easy to maintain a list of CPUID leaf that does not have sub-leaf
today, or a list of ones that have sub-leaf.
It's a feature to help on debuggability, similar to today's StrLen() implementation
in BaseLib that avoids reading the memory to no-end.


> 
> >
> > Another concern I have if AsmCpuid() zeros ECX is callers would call
> AsmCpuid(leaf) instead of AsmCpuidEx (leaf, 0).
> > This would cause the caller code a mess.
> 
> I think it's just a mindset that I have from kernel programming. In Linux,
> the AsmCpuid() equivalent will explicitly zero the ECX register so that
> you get the zero sub-leaf if that leaf has sub-leaves.
> 
> Using AsmCpuid() where ECX is non-zero and possibly random, could make
> debugging harder. By zeroing ECX, you will get repeatable return values to
> help with debugging when things aren't going right.

I agree with your concern.
How about having both? I mean not only zeroing out ECX but also rejecting the
CPUID leaves which have sub-leaf.
It's a lib API. I still don't want AsmCpuid to own the responsibility to call sub-leaf 0.
So, in debug build, AsmCpuid() asserts on some calls.
In release build, we get fixed behavior.



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  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-21  3:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-06 22:45 [edk2-devel] [PATCH 0/2] SEV-SNP guest support fixes Lendacky, Thomas via groups.io
2023-11-06 22:45 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/2] UefiCpuPkg/MpInitLib: Use AsmCpuidEx() for CPUID_EXTENDED_TOPOLOGY leaf Lendacky, Thomas via groups.io
2023-11-28 10:31   ` Ni, Ray
2023-11-06 22:45 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH 2/2] UefiCpuPkg/MpInitLib: Copy SEV-ES save area pointer during APIC ID sorting Lendacky, Thomas via groups.io
2023-11-28 10:33   ` Ni, Ray
     [not found] ` <17952A20A9E21541.12603@groups.io>
2023-11-06 23:15   ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/2] UefiCpuPkg/MpInitLib: Use AsmCpuidEx() for CPUID_EXTENDED_TOPOLOGY leaf Lendacky, Thomas via groups.io
2023-11-07  1:19     ` Michael D Kinney
2023-11-28 14:35     ` Lendacky, Thomas via groups.io
     [not found]     ` <179BD02AA4207037.22216@groups.io>
2024-01-17 21:26       ` Lendacky, Thomas via groups.io
2024-01-18 23:10         ` Michael D Kinney
2024-01-19 10:00           ` Ni, Ray
2024-01-19 23:16             ` Michael D Kinney
2024-01-19 23:48               ` Ni, Ray
2024-01-20  1:49                 ` Michael D Kinney
2024-01-20  6:48                   ` Ni, Ray
2024-01-20 16:03                     ` Lendacky, Thomas via groups.io
2024-01-21  3:00                       ` Ni, Ray [this message]
2023-11-07  9:55 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH 0/2] SEV-SNP guest support fixes Gerd Hoffmann
2023-11-17 21:43   ` Lendacky, Thomas via groups.io
2023-11-27 19:00     ` Lendacky, Thomas via groups.io

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