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From: "Michael Kubacki" <michael.kubacki@outlook.com>
To: devel@edk2.groups.io, awarkentin@vmware.com,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@arm.com>,
	"debtech@gmail.com" <debtech@gmail.com>
Cc: Bret Barkelew <bret@corthon.com>,
	Jiewen Yao <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
	Dandan Bi <dandan.bi@intel.com>,
	Chao Zhang <chao.b.zhang@intel.com>,
	Jian J Wang <jian.j.wang@intel.com>,
	Hao A Wu <hao.a.wu@intel.com>, Liming Gao <liming.gao@intel.com>,
	Jordan Justen <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>,
	Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>, Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>,
	Ray Ni <ray.ni@intel.com>, Bret Barkelew <brbarkel@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v9 00/13] Add the VariablePolicy feature
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 12:16:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <MWHPR07MB34408FAF8EEF50E2851C928AE9E00@MWHPR07MB3440.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN6PR05MB3411F041F978DA1E14BC358BB9E00@BN6PR05MB3411.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

While I'm not currently a maintainer in either repo, I believe the 
current process is not ideal. I highlighted some of my observations 
here: https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/65902.

Again, I don't have a strong vested interest in this but I do think some 
level of a more well defined process needs to be reached between repo 
maintiners to ease feature development in the future.

Thanks,
Michael

On 11/19/2020 12:02 PM, Andrei Warkentin wrote:
> Hi Bret,
> 
> To be honest, I don't recall seeing anything. Again, maybe I should have 
> been more proactive, but that's probably the net reality for most 
> people. It would be unreasonable to expect you to test every platform, 
> but it is very reasonable to assume that if you know you're adding build 
> breakage to every platform (that is trivial to fix), that you would be 
> taking care of it... Principle of least surprise. And yes, in some weird 
> corner case perhaps that would be insufficient (again, I don't think 
> anyone would expect you to compile test every platform), but it would 
> take care of 99% of obvious fall-out.
> 
> For reference, there are occasional clean-ups that happen to the edk2 
> tree, and I've never seen anyone claim "not my problem" to deal with the 
> obvious fall-out resulting from renames and such.
> 
> A
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io> on behalf of Bret 
> Barkelew via groups.io <debtech=gmail.com@groups.io>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 19, 2020 10:15 AM
> *To:* Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@arm.com>
> *Cc:* Bret Barkelew <bret@corthon.com>; devel@edk2.groups.io 
> <devel@edk2.groups.io>; Jiewen Yao <jiewen.yao@intel.com>; Dandan Bi 
> <dandan.bi@intel.com>; Chao Zhang <chao.b.zhang@intel.com>; Jian J Wang 
> <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Hao A Wu <hao.a.wu@intel.com>; Liming Gao 
> <liming.gao@intel.com>; Jordan Justen <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>; 
> Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>; Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>; Ray Ni 
> <ray.ni@intel.com>; Bret Barkelew <brbarkel@microsoft.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v9 00/13] Add the VariablePolicy feature
> Those bugs and recommendations were sent out months ago. Several 
> platforms have staged the changes already.
> 
> You need to add the library class to your DSC.
> 
> --
> [ Insert obscure pop-culture reference here. ]
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2020, at 4:46 AM, Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@arm.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 11/9/20 7:45 AM, Bret Barkelew wrote:
>>> The 14 patches in this series add the VariablePolicy feature to the core,
>>> deprecate Edk2VarLock (while adding a compatibility layer to reduce code
>>> churn), and integrate the VariablePolicy libraries and protocols into
>>> Variable Services.
>>> Since the integration requires multiple changes, including adding libraries,
>>> a protocol, an SMI communication handler, and VariableServices integration,
>>> the patches are broken up by individual library additions and then a final
>>> integration. Security-sensitive changes like bypassing Authenticated
>>> Variable enforcement are also broken out into individual patches so that
>>> attention can be called directly to them.
>>> Platform porting instructions are described in this wiki entry:
>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Ftianocore%2Ftianocore.github.io%2Fwiki%2FVariablePolicy-Protocol---Enhanced-Method-for-Managing-Variables%23platform-porting&amp;data=04%7C01%7Cawarkentin%40vmware.com%7C594f15b45aaf476bff7e08d88cb57390%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C637414058247128819%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=LLKZ7qeffR0WCvLbYuHtQIuwJGhXY0mVqB2w9B0q180%3D&amp;reserved=0 
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Ftianocore%2Ftianocore.github.io%2Fwiki%2FVariablePolicy-Protocol---Enhanced-Method-for-Managing-Variables%23platform-porting&amp;data=04%7C01%7Cawarkentin%40vmware.com%7C594f15b45aaf476bff7e08d88cb57390%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C637414058247128819%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=LLKZ7qeffR0WCvLbYuHtQIuwJGhXY0mVqB2w9B0q180%3D&amp;reserved=0>
>>> Discussion of the feature can be found in multiple places throughout
>>> the last year on the RFC channel, staging branches, and in devel.
>>> Most recently, this subject was discussed in this thread:
>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fedk2.groups.io%2Fg%2Fdevel%2Fmessage%2F53712&amp;data=04%7C01%7Cawarkentin%40vmware.com%7C594f15b45aaf476bff7e08d88cb57390%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C637414058247133820%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=GYY52rlsPxw07vfdu%2BVbWhzRjtHWXlIGveCTT17mlfc%3D&amp;reserved=0 
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fedk2.groups.io%2Fg%2Fdevel%2Fmessage%2F53712&amp;data=04%7C01%7Cawarkentin%40vmware.com%7C594f15b45aaf476bff7e08d88cb57390%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C637414058247133820%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=GYY52rlsPxw07vfdu%2BVbWhzRjtHWXlIGveCTT17mlfc%3D&amp;reserved=0>
>>> (the code branches shared in that discussion are now out of date, but the
>>> whitepapers and discussion are relevant).
>>> Cc: Jiewen Yao <jiewen.yao@intel.com>
>>> Cc: Dandan Bi <dandan.bi@intel.com>
>>> Cc: Chao Zhang <chao.b.zhang@intel.com>
>>> Cc: Jian J Wang <jian.j.wang@intel.com>
>>> Cc: Hao A Wu <hao.a.wu@intel.com>
>>> Cc: Liming Gao <liming.gao@intel.com>
>>> Cc: Jordan Justen <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>
>>> Cc: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
>>> Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@arm.com>
>>> Cc: Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>
>>> Cc: Ray Ni <ray.ni@intel.com>
>>> Cc: Bret Barkelew <brbarkel@microsoft.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Bret Barkelew <brbarkel@microsoft.com>
>> 
>> This series has now made it into edk2, and has subsequently broken every single platform in edk2-platforms. Is anyone intending to propose any fixes for this?
>> 
>> 
>>> v9 changes:
>>> * Rebase
>>> * Address the event ordering issues around MorLock at EndOfDxe
>>> * Drop problematic tests
>>> * Address ECC issues
>>> v8 changes:
>>> * Rebase
>>> * Small tweaks from final PRs
>>> * Drank a lot
>>> * Enrolled several members and a steward in CatFacts
>>> v7 changes:
>>> * Address comments from Dandan about security of the MM handler
>>> * Add readme
>>> * Fix bug around hex characters in BOOT####, etc
>>> * Add additional testing for hex characters
>>> * Add additional testing for authenticated variables
>>> v6 changes:
>>> * Fix an issue with uninitialized Status in InitVariablePolicyLib() and DeinitVariablePolicyLib()
>>> * Fix GCC building in shell-based functional test
>>> * Rebase on latest origin/master
>>> v5 changes:
>>> * Fix the CONST mismatch in VariablePolicy.h and VariablePolicySmmDxe.c
>>> * Fix EFIAPI mismatches in the functional unittest
>>> * Rebase on latest origin/master
>>> v4 changes:
>>> * Remove Optional PcdAllowVariablePolicyEnforcementDisable PCD from platforms
>>> * Rebase on master
>>> * Migrate to new MmCommunicate2 protocol
>>> * Fix an oversight in the default return value for InitMmCommonCommBuffer
>>> * Fix in VariablePolicyLib to allow ExtraInitRuntimeDxe to consume variables
>>> V3 changes:
>>> * Address all non-unittest issues with ECC
>>> * Make additional style changes
>>> * Include section name in hunk headers in "ini-style" files
>>> * Remove requirement for the EdkiiPiSmmCommunicationsRegionTable driver
>>>   (now allocates its own buffer)
>>> * Change names from VARIABLE_POLICY_PROTOCOL and gVariablePolicyProtocolGuid
>>>   to EDKII_VARIABLE_POLICY_PROTOCOL and gEdkiiVariablePolicyProtocolGuid
>>> * Fix GCC warning about initializing externs
>>> * Add UNI strings for new PCD
>>> * Add patches for ArmVirtPkg, OvmfXen, and UefiPayloadPkg
>>> * Reorder patches according to Liming's feedback about adding to platforms
>>>   before changing variable driver
>>> V2 changes:
>>> * Fixed implementation for RuntimeDxe
>>> * Add PCD to block DisableVariablePolicy
>>> * Fix the DumpVariablePolicy pagination in SMM
>>> Bret Barkelew (13):
>>>   MdeModulePkg: Define the VariablePolicy protocol interface
>>>   MdeModulePkg: Define the VariablePolicyLib
>>>   MdeModulePkg: Define the VariablePolicyHelperLib
>>>   MdeModulePkg: Define the VarCheckPolicyLib and SMM interface
>>>   OvmfPkg: Add VariablePolicy engine to OvmfPkg platform
>>>   EmulatorPkg: Add VariablePolicy engine to EmulatorPkg platform
>>>   ArmVirtPkg: Add VariablePolicy engine to ArmVirtPkg platform
>>>   UefiPayloadPkg: Add VariablePolicy engine to UefiPayloadPkg platform
>>>   MdeModulePkg: Connect VariablePolicy business logic to
>>>     VariableServices
>>>   MdeModulePkg: Allow VariablePolicy state to delete protected variables
>>>   SecurityPkg: Allow VariablePolicy state to delete authenticated
>>>     variables
>>>   MdeModulePkg: Change TCG MOR variables to use VariablePolicy
>>>   MdeModulePkg: Drop VarLock from RuntimeDxe variable driver
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Library/VarCheckPolicyLib/VarCheckPolicyLib.c                 | 346 ++++++++
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyHelperLib/VariablePolicyHelperLib.c     | 396 ++++++++++
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyLib/VariablePolicyExtraInitNull.c       |  46 ++
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyLib/VariablePolicyExtraInitRuntimeDxe.c |  85 ++
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyLib/VariablePolicyLib.c                 | 830 ++++++++++++++++++++
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Universal/Variable/RuntimeDxe/TcgMorLockDxe.c                 |  52 +-
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Universal/Variable/RuntimeDxe/TcgMorLockSmm.c                 |  60 +-
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Universal/Variable/RuntimeDxe/VarCheck.c                      |  49 +-
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Universal/Variable/RuntimeDxe/VariableDxe.c                   |  60 ++
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Universal/Variable/RuntimeDxe/VariableLockRequestToLock.c     |  71 ++
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Universal/Variable/RuntimeDxe/VariablePolicySmmDxe.c          | 573 ++++++++++++++
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Universal/Variable/RuntimeDxe/VariableSmm.c                   |   7 +
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Universal/Variable/RuntimeDxe/VariableSmmRuntimeDxe.c         |  14 +
>>>  SecurityPkg/Library/AuthVariableLib/AuthService.c                          |  30 +-
>>>  ArmVirtPkg/ArmVirt.dsc.inc                                                 |   4 +
>>>  EmulatorPkg/EmulatorPkg.dsc                                                |   3 +
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Include/Guid/VarCheckPolicyMmi.h                              |  54 ++
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Include/Library/VariablePolicyHelperLib.h                     | 164 ++++
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Include/Library/VariablePolicyLib.h                           | 207 +++++
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Include/Protocol/VariablePolicy.h                             | 157 ++++
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Library/VarCheckPolicyLib/VarCheckPolicyLib.inf               |  42 +
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Library/VarCheckPolicyLib/VarCheckPolicyLib.uni               |  12 +
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyHelperLib/VariablePolicyHelperLib.inf   |  35 +
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyHelperLib/VariablePolicyHelperLib.uni   |  12 +
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyLib/ReadMe.md                           | 406 ++++++++++
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyLib/VariablePolicyLib.inf               |  48 ++
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyLib/VariablePolicyLib.uni               |  12 +
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyLib/VariablePolicyLibRuntimeDxe.inf     |  51 ++
>>>  MdeModulePkg/MdeModulePkg.ci.yaml                                          |   4 +-
>>>  MdeModulePkg/MdeModulePkg.dec                                              |  26 +-
>>>  MdeModulePkg/MdeModulePkg.dsc                                              |   9 +
>>>  MdeModulePkg/MdeModulePkg.uni                                              |   7 +
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Universal/Variable/RuntimeDxe/VariableRuntimeDxe.inf          |   5 +
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Universal/Variable/RuntimeDxe/VariableSmm.inf                 |   4 +
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Universal/Variable/RuntimeDxe/VariableSmmRuntimeDxe.inf       |  11 +
>>>  MdeModulePkg/Universal/Variable/RuntimeDxe/VariableStandaloneMm.inf        |   4 +
>>>  OvmfPkg/OvmfPkgIa32.dsc                                                    |   5 +
>>>  OvmfPkg/OvmfPkgIa32X64.dsc                                                 |   5 +
>>>  OvmfPkg/OvmfPkgX64.dsc                                                     |   5 +
>>>  OvmfPkg/OvmfXen.dsc                                                        |   4 +
>>>  SecurityPkg/Library/AuthVariableLib/AuthVariableLib.inf                    |   2 +
>>>  UefiPayloadPkg/UefiPayloadPkgIa32.dsc                                      |   4 +
>>>  UefiPayloadPkg/UefiPayloadPkgIa32X64.dsc                                   |   4 +
>>>  43 files changed, 3845 insertions(+), 80 deletions(-)
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Library/VarCheckPolicyLib/VarCheckPolicyLib.c
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyHelperLib/VariablePolicyHelperLib.c
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyLib/VariablePolicyExtraInitNull.c
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyLib/VariablePolicyExtraInitRuntimeDxe.c
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyLib/VariablePolicyLib.c
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Universal/Variable/RuntimeDxe/VariableLockRequestToLock.c
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Universal/Variable/RuntimeDxe/VariablePolicySmmDxe.c
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Include/Guid/VarCheckPolicyMmi.h
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Include/Library/VariablePolicyHelperLib.h
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Include/Library/VariablePolicyLib.h
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Include/Protocol/VariablePolicy.h
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Library/VarCheckPolicyLib/VarCheckPolicyLib.inf
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Library/VarCheckPolicyLib/VarCheckPolicyLib.uni
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyHelperLib/VariablePolicyHelperLib.inf
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyHelperLib/VariablePolicyHelperLib.uni
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyLib/ReadMe.md
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyLib/VariablePolicyLib.inf
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyLib/VariablePolicyLib.uni
>>>  create mode 100644 MdeModulePkg/Library/VariablePolicyLib/VariablePolicyLibRuntimeDxe.inf
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-19 20:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-09  6:45 [PATCH v9 00/13] Add the VariablePolicy feature Bret Barkelew
2020-11-09  6:45 ` [PATCH v9 01/13] MdeModulePkg: Define the VariablePolicy protocol interface Bret Barkelew
2020-11-09  6:45 ` [PATCH v9 02/13] MdeModulePkg: Define the VariablePolicyLib Bret Barkelew
2020-11-09  6:45 ` [PATCH v9 03/13] MdeModulePkg: Define the VariablePolicyHelperLib Bret Barkelew
2020-11-09  6:45 ` [PATCH v9 04/13] MdeModulePkg: Define the VarCheckPolicyLib and SMM interface Bret Barkelew
2020-11-09  6:45 ` [PATCH v9 05/13] OvmfPkg: Add VariablePolicy engine to OvmfPkg platform Bret Barkelew
2020-11-09  6:45 ` [PATCH v9 06/13] EmulatorPkg: Add VariablePolicy engine to EmulatorPkg platform Bret Barkelew
2020-11-09  6:45 ` [PATCH v9 07/13] ArmVirtPkg: Add VariablePolicy engine to ArmVirtPkg platform Bret Barkelew
2020-11-09  6:45 ` [PATCH v9 08/13] UefiPayloadPkg: Add VariablePolicy engine to UefiPayloadPkg platform Bret Barkelew
2020-11-09  6:45 ` [PATCH v9 09/13] MdeModulePkg: Connect VariablePolicy business logic to VariableServices Bret Barkelew
2020-11-09  6:45 ` [PATCH v9 10/13] MdeModulePkg: Allow VariablePolicy state to delete protected variables Bret Barkelew
2020-11-09  6:45 ` [PATCH v9 11/13] SecurityPkg: Allow VariablePolicy state to delete authenticated variables Bret Barkelew
2020-11-09  6:45 ` [PATCH v9 12/13] MdeModulePkg: Change TCG MOR variables to use VariablePolicy Bret Barkelew
2020-11-09  6:45 ` [PATCH v9 13/13] MdeModulePkg: Drop VarLock from RuntimeDxe variable driver Bret Barkelew
2020-11-11 18:43 ` [PATCH v9 00/13] Add the VariablePolicy feature Bret Barkelew
2020-11-11 22:34   ` [edk2-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2020-11-12 14:24   ` 回复: " gaoliming
2020-11-12 16:45     ` Bret Barkelew
2020-11-13  1:20       ` Bret Barkelew
2020-11-13  2:05         ` 回复: " gaoliming
2020-11-13 19:59           ` Laszlo Ersek
     [not found]         ` <1646EF0A6B8F843A.414@groups.io>
2020-11-17  1:00           ` gaoliming
2020-11-19 12:46 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-11-19 16:15   ` Bret Barkelew
2020-11-19 16:19     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-11-19 16:23       ` [EXTERNAL] " Bret Barkelew
     [not found]       ` <1648F558ACA0C0F8.8629@groups.io>
2020-11-19 16:26         ` [edk2-devel] " Bret Barkelew
2020-11-19 16:35           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-11-20 10:34             ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-11-19 20:02     ` [edk2-devel] " Andrei Warkentin
2020-11-19 20:16       ` Michael Kubacki [this message]
2020-11-19 20:41       ` Bret Barkelew
2020-11-20 10:53         ` Laszlo Ersek

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