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Hi Folks,

Thanks for good discussions around this topic.

 

The purpose of this document "Who we are&quo= t; is intended to remain high level to introduce the community members and = their roles. Please note that some of the feedback is very detailed that pr= obably fits into the TianoCore development process document.

 

Below are my proposed changes to the document bas= ed on the emails.

Please review and let me know if you see any issu= es by Oct 5. Please also directly edit the document and let us know what yo= u edited in the document.

Fyi.. my plan is for this page to go live on Oct = 9th. This will be a living document and we can make changes as w= e discover more.

 

I have added a new member "Release Manager&q= uot;, added TianoCore admin role, added responsibilities to the Maintainer = and Reviewer section.

I agree that Maintainer is the one who approves f= inal patch. I see the argument for creating =A1=A7Approving Reviewer" = and "Assistant Reviewer=A1=A8 roles, I am holding off this proposal to= discuss in the upcoming Stewards meeting and make a call.

 

Release Manager

Role/Responsibilities:

1)The Release Manager is responsible for driving = the quarterly Stable Tags. The Release Manager will plan the features, sche= dule the release date, create the Stable Tag with the release notes and ann= ounce to the EDK2 community on the release milestones: Soft feature freeze, hard feature freeze and the final= release of the Stable Tag.

 

Maintainer Responsibility

1)Maintainer or Reviewer is responsible for timel= y responses on emails addressed to them (preferably less than calendar week= ).

 

Reviewer Responsibility

1)Reviewer or Maintainer is responsible for timel= y responses on emails addressed to them(preferably less than calendar week)= .

2) Open =A1V Add Approving Reviewer" and &qu= ot;Assistant Reviewer".

 

TianoCore Admin:

Role: approve/remove access to TianoCore resource= s such as GitHub, Bugzilla, groupsIO etc..

Responsibilities:

Respond to emails and monitor role changes in the= community (adding/removing maintainers..)

 

The request to add the below - Contributor respon= sibilities. This is too detailed. I would add this to the development proce= ss document.

CONTRIBUTOR

Responsibilities:

If a contributor proposes an incompatible change,= the contributor should coordinate with the platform maintainer and make an= agreement on who will follow up to update the impacted platforms before me= rging the patch. The impacted platforms include everything in Edk2 and Edk2Platforms.

 

Thanks,

Soumya

 

-----O= riginal Message-----
From: Leif Lindholm <leif@nuviainc.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 3:22 AM
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Cc: gaoliming <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>; devel@edk2.groups.io; Yao, = Jiewen <jiewen.yao@intel.com>; Guptha, Soumya K <soumya.k.guptha@i= ntel.com>; announce@edk2.groups.io; Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinn= ey@intel.com>; 'Andrew Fish' <afish@apple.com>
Subject: Re: =A6^=CE`: [edk2-devel] Tianocore community page on who we are -= please review

 

On Thu, Oct 01, 2020 at 10:44:10 +0200, Laszlo Er= sek wrote:

> On 09/30/20 12:13, Leif Lindholm wrote:=

> > Agreed.

> >

> > Reviever or Maintainer can approve a pa= tch. Any Maintainer can push

> > a patch that has been approved.

>

> I disagree.

>

> Assume Ard and myself are away and Jordan fa= ils to report back in a

> week or so, but Rebecca or Peter have review= ed a patch on the list for

> OvmfPkg/Bhyve.

>

> In that case, the patch should *NOT* be merg= ed by (for example) you,

> just because you have push rights. The commu= nity will have to wait

> until Ard, Jordan, or myself return and prov= ide an ACK.

>

> If the maintainers are *consistently* irresp= onsive, then new

> maintainers need to be added, possibly with = a larger community

> discussion. But if it's just a week (especia= lly if we discussed our

> absence in advance), then maintainer absence= is completely sufficient

> and justified for holding back patches, even= if designated reviewers

> are OK with those patches.

>

> I've been *really* disliking that, for examp= le, the chief MdeModulePkg

> reviewers don't regularly ACK patches that h= ave been reviewed by

> designated reviewers. If those reviewers are= considered authoritative

> enough to fully approve patches -- and most = of them they have push

> access already, anyway --, then we should re= work Maintainers.txt so

> that Maintainer roles be handed out with a f= iner granularity. If you will:

> promote those reviewers to Maintainers, on t= heir respective turfs.

>

> > This can happen either:

> > - when the designated Maintainer for th= at patch is

> >   unavailable/unresponsive

> > - if the patch submitter is also a Main= tainer of some other part of

> >   the repo.

> >

> > No one can approve their own patches.

> >

> > The act of adding a Reviewer means dele= gating the approval work to

> > them.

>

> I don't see it like that; I think Maintainer= s should have the last

> word on every patch going in. And yes, this = *requires* maintainers to

> be responsive.

>

> ... Hm. Perhaps this is a sign that we reall= y have two concepts here,

> we've just not been distinguishing them clea= rly enough. Maybe we need

> to split the reviewer role in two: "App= roving Reviewer" and "Assistant

> Reviewer".

 

I think you're right. This is why we seem to have= two sets of opinions on this topic.

 

> For example, on OvmfPkg, I would suggest mar= king all current Reviewers

> as "Assistant Reviewers". On ArmVi= rtPkg, I'd likely propose you as an

> Approving Reviewer (you have stood in for Ar= d and myself anyway, for

> years now), and suggest Assistant Reviewer r= ole for Julien.

 

Right, that makes sense to me.

 

If I was to start bikeshedding, I might suggest a= dding an A: tag for approving reviewer. Possibly stealing the description f= rom the current

R: tag, and adding the approving bit. And maybe n= icking the QEMU R:

description outright for R:.

 

> On

> MdeModulePkg and other core packages, I'd de= fer the re-classification

> to Intel; we'd likely see a really large num= ber of Approving Reviewers

> (justifiedly, I think).

 

Agreed.

 

/

    Leif

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