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From: "Vitaly Cheptsov" <vit9696@protonmail.com>
To: "Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	"Gao, Liming" <liming.gao@intel.com>,
	"Gao, Zhichao" <zhichao.gao@intel.com>,
	"devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>
Cc: "Marvin Häuser" <marvin.haeuser@outlook.com>,
	"Laszlo Ersek" <lersek@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v3 0/1] Add PCD to disable safe string constraint assertions
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 11:54:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <OfIttptwi4Ore9Yhy7-ERsdEylq_8-yRG6-XGo--cCPi__vEm63Ourh3eU20s63A_ofqbqjxLivXcIthlxZsDmY48Y4lMHkA5SOmOQSuKE8=@protonmail.com> (raw)
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Replying as per Liming's request for this to be merged into edk2-stable202002.

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 14:12, vit9696 <vit9696@protonmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> It has been quite some time since we submitted the patch with so far no negative response. As I mentioned previously, my team will strongly benefit from its landing in EDK II mainline. Since it does not add any regressions and can be viewed as a feature implementation for the rest of EDK II users, I request this to be merged upstream in edk2-stable202002.
>
> Best wishes,
> Vitaly
>
>> 27 янв. 2020 г., в 12:47, vit9696 <vit9696@protonmail.com> написал(а):
>>
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Any progress with this? We would really benefit from this landing in the next stable release.
>>
>> Best,
>> Vitaly
>>
>>> 8 янв. 2020 г., в 19:35, Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com> написал(а):
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Vitaly,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the additional background. I would like
>>> a couple extra day to review the PCD name and the places
>>> the PCD might potentially be used.
>>>
>>> If we find other APIs where ASSERT() behavior is only
>>> valuable during dev/debug to quickly identify misuse
>>> with trusted data and the API provides predicable
>>> return behavior when ASSERT() is disabled, then I would
>>> like to have a pattern we can potentially apply to all
>>> these APIs across all packages.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io> On
>>>> Behalf Of Vitaly Cheptsov via Groups.Io
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 10:44 AM
>>>> To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
>>>> Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v3 0/1] Add PCD to
>>>> disable safe string constraint assertions
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the primary use case is for UEFI Applications. We
>>>> do not want to disable ASSERT’s completely, as
>>>> assertions that make sense, i.e. the ones signalising
>>>> about interface misuse, are helpful for debugging.
>>>>
>>>> I have already explained in the BZ that basically all
>>>> safe string constraint assertions make no sense for
>>>> handling untrusted data. We find this use case very
>>>> logical, as these functions behave properly with
>>>> assertions disabled and cover all these error
>>>> conditions by the return statuses. In such situation is
>>>> not useful for these functions to assert, as we end up
>>>> inefficiently reimplementing the logic. I would have
>>>> liked the approach of discussing the interfaces
>>>> individually, but I struggle to find any that makes
>>>> sense from this point of view.
>>>>
>>>> AsciiStrToGuid will ASSERT when the length of the
>>>> passed string is odd. Functions that cannot, ahem,
>>>> parse, for us are pretty much useless.
>>>> AsciiStrCatS will ASSERT when the appended string does
>>>> not fit the buffer. For us this logic makes this
>>>> function pretty much equivalent to deprecated and thus
>>>> unavailable AsciiStrCat, except it is also slower.
>>>>
>>>> My original suggestion was to remove the assertions
>>>> entirely, but several people here said that they use
>>>> them to verify usage errors when handling trusted data.
>>>> This makes good sense to me, so we suggest to support
>>>> both cases by introducing a PCD in this patch.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Vitaly
>>>>
>>>>> 6 янв. 2020 г., в 21:28, Kinney, Michael D
>>>> <michael.d.kinney@intel.com> написал(а):
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Vitaly,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the use case for UEFI Applications?
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a different mechanism to disable all
>>>> ASSERT()
>>>>> statements within a UEFI Application.
>>>>>
>>>>> If a component is consuming data from an untrusted
>>>> source,
>>>>> then that component is required to verify the
>>>> untrusted
>>>>> data before passing it to a function that clearly
>>>> documents
>>>>> is input requirements. If this approach is followed,
>>>> then
>>>>> the BaseLib functions can be used "as is" as long as
>>>> the
>>>>> ASSERT() conditions are verified before calling.
>>>>>
>>>>> If there are some APIs that currently document their
>>>> ASSERT()
>>>>> behavior and we think that ASSERT() behavior is
>>>> incorrect and
>>>>> should be handled by an existing error return value,
>>>> then we
>>>>> should discuss each of those APIs individually.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Vitaly Cheptsov via Groups.Io
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 9:13 AM
>>>>>> To: devel@edk2.groups.io
>>>>>> Subject: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v3 0/1] Add PCD to
>>>> disable
>>>>>> safe string constraint assertions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> REF:
>>>>>> https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2054
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Requesting for merge in edk2-stable202002.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Changes since V1:
>>>>>> - Enable assertions by default to preserve the
>>>> original
>>>>>> behaviour
>>>>>> - Fix bugzilla reference link
>>>>>> - Update documentation in BaseLib.h
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vitaly Cheptsov (1):
>>>>>> MdePkg: Add PCD to disable safe string constraint
>>>>>> assertions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MdePkg/MdePkg.dec | 6 ++
>>>>>> MdePkg/Library/BaseLib/BaseLib.inf | 11 +--
>>>>>> MdePkg/Include/Library/BaseLib.h | 74
>>>>>> +++++++++++++-------
>>>>>> MdePkg/Library/BaseLib/SafeString.c | 4 +-
>>>>>> MdePkg/MdePkg.uni | 6 ++
>>>>>> 5 files changed, 71 insertions(+), 30 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-14 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-03 17:12 [PATCH v3 0/1] Add PCD to disable safe string constraint assertions Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-01-03 17:12 ` [PATCH v3 1/1] MdePkg: " Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-01-06 18:28 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v3 0/1] " Michael D Kinney
2020-01-06 18:43   ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-01-06 22:54     ` Sean
2020-01-08 16:35     ` Michael D Kinney
2020-01-27  9:47       ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-02-10 11:12         ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-02-14 11:54           ` Vitaly Cheptsov [this message]
2020-02-14 17:00             ` Michael D Kinney
2020-02-14 17:37               ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-02-14 22:50                 ` Michael D Kinney
2020-02-14 23:04                   ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-02-15  0:02                   ` Andrew Fish
2020-02-15  3:31                     ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-02-15  6:26                       ` Andrew Fish
2020-02-15 11:53                         ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-02-15 12:02                           ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-02-15 19:38                         ` Michael D Kinney
2020-02-16 21:25                           ` Andrew Fish
2020-02-17  6:55                             ` Vitaly Cheptsov
2020-02-17  8:26                             ` Marvin Häuser
2020-02-19 23:55                               ` Andrew Fish
2020-02-20 10:18                                 ` Marvin Häuser
2020-03-03 19:38                                   ` Marvin Häuser
2020-03-04  0:19                                     ` Liming Gao
2020-03-03 20:27                                   ` Andrew Fish
     [not found]                             ` <15F4232304E080CF.5373@groups.io>
2020-02-17  9:36                               ` Marvin Häuser

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