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From: "Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com>
To: "Xu, Min M" <min.m.xu@intel.com>,
	"kraxel@redhat.com" <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: "devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>,
	"Justen, Jordan L" <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>,
	Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	Erdem Aktas <erdemaktas@google.com>,
	James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V5 2/2] OvmfPkg/ResetVector: Enable Intel TDX in ResetVector of Ovmf
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 03:03:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <PH0PR11MB48852CB9638254DEBAE2A4CA8CCF9@PH0PR11MB4885.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR11MB5064D2AC9261BB504CF0257BC5CE9@PH0PR11MB5064.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

HI Min/Gerd
I think we have multiple ways to enable 5 level paging.

1) We do not change to 5 level in initial paging in reset vector.
We can switch from 4 level to 5 level later when permanent memory is available.
We don't need change flash layout.

2) We can enable 5 level paging in initial paging.
2.1) We can enable 5 level paging with 1G paging support.
We don't need change flash layout. Only 3 pages is needed. (12K)
I don't know if we can real case that a CPU support 5 level but without 1G paging.

2.2) We can still enable 5 level paging with 2M paging.
2.2.1) We can change flash layout to increase 6 pages (24K) memory to 7 pages (28K).
So the CR3 in 5 level is same as the CR3 in 4 level.

2.2.2) We don't change flash layout but steal another page in somewhere else - PcdOvmfPml5Base
That means CR3 in 5 level is different with CR4 in 4 level.
Personally, I don't like the idea to create PcdOvmfPml5Base/Size
Other AP MUST check 5 level and 4 level to get right CR3 location. That is tricky and unnecessary.

In current patch, 2.2.2) is used.

I suggest we also evaluate option 1), 2.1) and 2.2.1).

If changing layout is NOT a concern then we can do 2.2.1).
If we don't want to change layout, we can do 2.1) and fall back to 1).



Thank you
Yao Jiewen


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Xu, Min M <min.m.xu@intel.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:49 PM
> To: kraxel@redhat.com
> Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io; Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>; Justen,
> Jordan L <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>; Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>;
> Erdem Aktas <erdemaktas@google.com>; James Bottomley
> <jejb@linux.ibm.com>; Yao, Jiewen <jiewen.yao@intel.com>; Tom Lendacky
> <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
> Subject: RE: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V5 2/2] OvmfPkg/ResetVector: Enable Intel
> TDX in ResetVector of Ovmf
> 
> On September 2, 2021 3:18 PM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> >   Hi,
> >
> > > > Sure.  And I think we should add proper 5-level paging support to
> > > > the current ovmf implementation instead of adding hacks to the tdx code.
> > > My understanding is that we should first add 5-level paging support in
> > OVMF, right?
> >
> > Well, the page table setup should be in common code not tdx code as 5-level
> > paging isn't something tdx-specific.
> Agree.
> >
> > I'd suggest to add this to OvmfPkg/ResetVector/Ia32/PageTables64.asm.
> > Reserve one more page, setup the tables for 5-level paging by inserting a
> > level 5 page directory.
> In the current patch a page (defined by PcdOvmfSecGhcbPageTableBase)
> reserved in MEMFD
> is used as the 5-level page directory.
> Now One new page will be reserved in MEMFD to hold the level 5 page directory.
> Like below:
> 0x00C000|0x001000
> gUefiOvmfPkgTokenSpaceGuid.PcdOvmfSecGhcbBackupBase|gUefiOvmfPkgTo
> kenSpaceGuid.PcdOvmfSecGhcbBackupSize
> 
> +0x00D000|0x001000
> +gUefiOvmfPkgTokenSpaceGuid.PcdOvmfPml5Base|gUefiOvmfPkgTokenSpace
> Guid.PcdOvmfPml5Size
> >
> > When using 5-level paging let cr3 point to the first page (level 5 pagedir),
> > when using 4-level paging let cr3 point to the second page (level 4 pagedir).
> Yes. CPUID.(EAX=07H, ECX=0):ECX[bit 16] will be used to check if 5-level paging
> is supported.
> >
> > Can be part of this patch series, just make it a separate patch for easier
> > review.
> Sure.
> >
> > Whenever we should enable 5-level paging even in non-tdx mode or use 5-
> > level paging only with tdx is a separate question.  We can continue to use 4-
> > level paging in non-tdx mode for now and discuss that later.
> Agree.
> >
> > I'm not sure which implications this would have for booting older kernels,
> > when handing over control to a OS kernel without 5-level paging support but
> > 5-level paging enabled (non-issue for tdx as this requires a new tdx-aware
> > guest kernel anyway ...).
> 
> Thanks!
> Min

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-03  3:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-30  2:35 [PATCH V5 0/2] Add Intel TDX support in OvmfPkg/ResetVector Min Xu
2021-08-30  2:35 ` [PATCH V5 1/2] OvmfPkg: Introduce Tdx BFV/CFV PCDs and PcdOvmfImageSizeInKb Min Xu
2021-08-30  7:03   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-31  3:29     ` [edk2-devel] " Min Xu
2021-08-31  5:13       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-31  6:17         ` Min Xu
2021-08-31 10:21           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-01  5:18             ` Min Xu
2021-09-01  6:10               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-01  6:57                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-09-01  7:19                   ` Min Xu
2021-09-01  7:44                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-01  8:59                     ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-09-01 16:53                       ` James Bottomley
2021-09-01 19:19                         ` Andrew Fish
2021-09-10 17:03                           ` Erdem Aktas
2021-08-30  2:35 ` [PATCH V5 2/2] OvmfPkg/ResetVector: Enable Intel TDX in ResetVector of Ovmf Min Xu
2021-08-30  7:40   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-08-31  3:09     ` [edk2-devel] " Min Xu
2021-08-31  5:35       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-02  0:05         ` Min Xu
2021-09-02  7:18           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-02  7:49             ` Min Xu
2021-09-03  3:03               ` Yao, Jiewen [this message]
2021-09-03  5:39                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-09 13:54                   ` Min Xu
2021-09-10  8:19                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-14  3:54                       ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-09-11  1:17   ` Erdem Aktas

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