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From: "Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com>
To: Sami Mujawar <Sami.Mujawar@arm.com>,
	"devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
	"Xu, Min M" <min.m.xu@intel.com>
Cc: "Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	Liming Gao <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>,
	"Liu, Zhiguang" <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>,
	"Wang, Jian J" <jian.j.wang@intel.com>,
	"Lu, Ken" <ken.lu@intel.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:06:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <PH0PR11MB48854E391CC4EA631960128B8CBC9@PH0PR11MB4885.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DD115432-F8BC-4AC8-96FD-07C9D8C1F22B@arm.com>

Sure. It works fine.

May I know *when* I can get your initial feedback ?
I hope in days or 1 or 2 weeks.

I don’t want to wait for several months, as we have features depend upon it.

Thank you
Yao Jiewen

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sami Mujawar <Sami.Mujawar@arm.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:00 PM
> To: Yao, Jiewen <jiewen.yao@intel.com>; devel@edk2.groups.io; Xu, Min M
> <min.m.xu@intel.com>
> Cc: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; Liming Gao
> <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>; Liu, Zhiguang <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>; Wang,
> Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Lu, Ken <ken.lu@intel.com>; nd <nd@arm.com>
> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2
> 
> Hi Jiewen,
> 
> We don't have publicly available documentation to share in this area, however
> we strongly prefer an architecture agnostic solution, and my initial suggestions
> takes us in that direction. I am happy to work on mailing list with you to make
> these changes and review necessary code changes. Does that work for you?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sami Mujawar
> 
> On 14/10/2021, 17:01, "Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Sami
>     To clarify my description:
>     I am OK to define it in an architecture neutral protocol, such as
> EFI_TEE_MEASUREMENT_PROTOCOL, or EFI_CCAM_PROTOCOL. I am happy to
> do that.
> 
>     However, at current point of time, I am not sure how other arch supports
> those feature, such as
>     AMD SEV (https://www.amd.com/system/files/TechDocs/56860.pdf), or ARM
> Realm (https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0615/latest/). I did not
> find runtime measurement there.
> 
>     I hope SEV/Realm people to propose what interface change is required. I am
> happy to discuss the solution here.
> 
>     Thank you
>     Yao Jiewen
> 
> 
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Yao,
> Jiewen
>     > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:59 PM
>     > To: Xu, Min M <min.m.xu@intel.com>; Sami Mujawar
>     > <Sami.Mujawar@arm.com>; devel@edk2.groups.io
>     > Cc: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; Liming Gao
>     > <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>; Liu, Zhiguang <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>;
> Wang,
>     > Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Lu, Ken <ken.lu@intel.com>; nd
> <nd@arm.com>
>     > Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2
>     >
>     > Hi Sami
>     > I am not sure if I can understand your comment -
>     > "Some interfaces may need to use an architecture specific library, and some
>     > configuration options would need to be defined using PCDs."
>     >
>     > Would you please be more specific?
>     >
>     > Thank you
>     > Yao Jiewen
>     >
>     >
>     > > -----Original Message-----
>     > > From: Xu, Min M <min.m.xu@intel.com>
>     > > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:41 PM
>     > > To: Sami Mujawar <Sami.Mujawar@arm.com>; devel@edk2.groups.io;
> Yao,
>     > > Jiewen <jiewen.yao@intel.com>
>     > > Cc: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; Liming Gao
>     > > <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>; Liu, Zhiguang <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>;
> Wang,
>     > > Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Lu, Ken <ken.lu@intel.com>; nd
>     > <nd@arm.com>
>     > > Subject: RE: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2
>     > >
>     > > On October 12, 2021 11:27 PM, Sami Mujawar wrote:
>     > > > Hi Min,
>     > > >
>     > > > Thank you for this patch.
>     > > >
>     > > > I think it would greatly help if the EFI_TD_PROTOCOL is changed to
>     > something
>     > > > more architecture neutral. As I understand, this patch series is removing
> the
>     > > > dependency on TPM for measurement and is instead providing a
> lightweight
>     > > > interface for extending measurements for Confidential Compute
>     > Architecture
>     > > > (CCA) guests.
>     > > >
>     > > > Considering this, it would be good to generalise EFI_TD_PROTOCOL as a
>     > > > Confidential Compute Architecture Measurement (CCAM) protocol.
>     > > > In fact, your v2 series demonstrates this need with the introduction of
>     > > > MEASURE_BOOT_PROTOCOLS in "[PATCH V2 2/3] SecurityPkg: Support
>     > > > TdProtocol in DxeTpm2MeasureBootLib
>     > > > [https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/81651]".
>     > > >
>     > > > As it stands, I feel most of the code can be reused/common.  Some
>     > interfaces
>     > > > may need to use an architecture specific library, and some configuration
>     > > > options would need to be defined using PCDs.
>     > > >
>     > > > Kindly let me know your thoughts.
>     > > >
>     > > Thanks for your comments.  Let me first discuss your feedback with our
>     > > architecture. We will reply to your proposal a bit later.
>     > >
>     > > Thanks.
>     > > Min
>     >
>     >
>     > 
>     >
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-18 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-08  5:21 [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2 Min Xu
2021-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH V2 1/3] MdePkg: Introduce TdProtocol for TD-Guest firmware Min Xu
2021-10-11  1:37   ` 回复: " gaoliming
2021-10-19 13:21   ` [edk2-devel] " Sami Mujawar
2021-10-19 14:40     ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-10-20  9:26       ` Sami Mujawar
2021-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH V2 2/3] SecurityPkg: Support TdProtocol in DxeTpm2MeasureBootLib Min Xu
2021-10-19 13:22   ` [edk2-devel] " Sami Mujawar
2021-10-27  5:19     ` Min Xu
2021-11-01 13:35       ` Sami Mujawar
2021-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH V2 3/3] SecurityPkg: Support TdProtocol in DxeTpmMeasurementLib Min Xu
2021-10-19 13:24   ` [edk2-devel] " Sami Mujawar
2021-10-12 15:26 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2 Sami Mujawar
2021-10-14  5:41   ` Min Xu
2021-10-14 11:59     ` Yao, Jiewen
     [not found]     ` <16ADE3D948B3147A.7007@groups.io>
2021-10-14 13:43       ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-10-18 12:59         ` Sami Mujawar
2021-10-18 13:06           ` Yao, Jiewen [this message]
2021-10-19  9:51             ` Sami Mujawar
2021-10-19 13:06               ` Min Xu

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