From: "Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com>
To: Sami Mujawar <Sami.Mujawar@arm.com>,
"devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
"Xu, Min M" <min.m.xu@intel.com>
Cc: "Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
Liming Gao <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>,
"Liu, Zhiguang" <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>,
"Wang, Jian J" <jian.j.wang@intel.com>,
"Lu, Ken" <ken.lu@intel.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:06:04 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <PH0PR11MB48854E391CC4EA631960128B8CBC9@PH0PR11MB4885.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DD115432-F8BC-4AC8-96FD-07C9D8C1F22B@arm.com>
Sure. It works fine.
May I know *when* I can get your initial feedback ?
I hope in days or 1 or 2 weeks.
I don’t want to wait for several months, as we have features depend upon it.
Thank you
Yao Jiewen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sami Mujawar <Sami.Mujawar@arm.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:00 PM
> To: Yao, Jiewen <jiewen.yao@intel.com>; devel@edk2.groups.io; Xu, Min M
> <min.m.xu@intel.com>
> Cc: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; Liming Gao
> <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>; Liu, Zhiguang <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>; Wang,
> Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Lu, Ken <ken.lu@intel.com>; nd <nd@arm.com>
> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2
>
> Hi Jiewen,
>
> We don't have publicly available documentation to share in this area, however
> we strongly prefer an architecture agnostic solution, and my initial suggestions
> takes us in that direction. I am happy to work on mailing list with you to make
> these changes and review necessary code changes. Does that work for you?
>
> Regards,
>
> Sami Mujawar
>
> On 14/10/2021, 17:01, "Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Sami
> To clarify my description:
> I am OK to define it in an architecture neutral protocol, such as
> EFI_TEE_MEASUREMENT_PROTOCOL, or EFI_CCAM_PROTOCOL. I am happy to
> do that.
>
> However, at current point of time, I am not sure how other arch supports
> those feature, such as
> AMD SEV (https://www.amd.com/system/files/TechDocs/56860.pdf), or ARM
> Realm (https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0615/latest/). I did not
> find runtime measurement there.
>
> I hope SEV/Realm people to propose what interface change is required. I am
> happy to discuss the solution here.
>
> Thank you
> Yao Jiewen
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel@edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Yao,
> Jiewen
> > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:59 PM
> > To: Xu, Min M <min.m.xu@intel.com>; Sami Mujawar
> > <Sami.Mujawar@arm.com>; devel@edk2.groups.io
> > Cc: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; Liming Gao
> > <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>; Liu, Zhiguang <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>;
> Wang,
> > Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Lu, Ken <ken.lu@intel.com>; nd
> <nd@arm.com>
> > Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2
> >
> > Hi Sami
> > I am not sure if I can understand your comment -
> > "Some interfaces may need to use an architecture specific library, and some
> > configuration options would need to be defined using PCDs."
> >
> > Would you please be more specific?
> >
> > Thank you
> > Yao Jiewen
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Xu, Min M <min.m.xu@intel.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:41 PM
> > > To: Sami Mujawar <Sami.Mujawar@arm.com>; devel@edk2.groups.io;
> Yao,
> > > Jiewen <jiewen.yao@intel.com>
> > > Cc: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; Liming Gao
> > > <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>; Liu, Zhiguang <zhiguang.liu@intel.com>;
> Wang,
> > > Jian J <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Lu, Ken <ken.lu@intel.com>; nd
> > <nd@arm.com>
> > > Subject: RE: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2
> > >
> > > On October 12, 2021 11:27 PM, Sami Mujawar wrote:
> > > > Hi Min,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for this patch.
> > > >
> > > > I think it would greatly help if the EFI_TD_PROTOCOL is changed to
> > something
> > > > more architecture neutral. As I understand, this patch series is removing
> the
> > > > dependency on TPM for measurement and is instead providing a
> lightweight
> > > > interface for extending measurements for Confidential Compute
> > Architecture
> > > > (CCA) guests.
> > > >
> > > > Considering this, it would be good to generalise EFI_TD_PROTOCOL as a
> > > > Confidential Compute Architecture Measurement (CCAM) protocol.
> > > > In fact, your v2 series demonstrates this need with the introduction of
> > > > MEASURE_BOOT_PROTOCOLS in "[PATCH V2 2/3] SecurityPkg: Support
> > > > TdProtocol in DxeTpm2MeasureBootLib
> > > > [https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/81651]".
> > > >
> > > > As it stands, I feel most of the code can be reused/common. Some
> > interfaces
> > > > may need to use an architecture specific library, and some configuration
> > > > options would need to be defined using PCDs.
> > > >
> > > > Kindly let me know your thoughts.
> > > >
> > > Thanks for your comments. Let me first discuss your feedback with our
> > > architecture. We will reply to your proposal a bit later.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > Min
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-18 13:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-08 5:21 [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2 Min Xu
2021-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH V2 1/3] MdePkg: Introduce TdProtocol for TD-Guest firmware Min Xu
2021-10-11 1:37 ` 回复: " gaoliming
2021-10-19 13:21 ` [edk2-devel] " Sami Mujawar
2021-10-19 14:40 ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-10-20 9:26 ` Sami Mujawar
2021-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH V2 2/3] SecurityPkg: Support TdProtocol in DxeTpm2MeasureBootLib Min Xu
2021-10-19 13:22 ` [edk2-devel] " Sami Mujawar
2021-10-27 5:19 ` Min Xu
2021-11-01 13:35 ` Sami Mujawar
2021-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH V2 3/3] SecurityPkg: Support TdProtocol in DxeTpmMeasurementLib Min Xu
2021-10-19 13:24 ` [edk2-devel] " Sami Mujawar
2021-10-12 15:26 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce TdProtocol into EDK2 Sami Mujawar
2021-10-14 5:41 ` Min Xu
2021-10-14 11:59 ` Yao, Jiewen
[not found] ` <16ADE3D948B3147A.7007@groups.io>
2021-10-14 13:43 ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-10-18 12:59 ` Sami Mujawar
2021-10-18 13:06 ` Yao, Jiewen [this message]
2021-10-19 9:51 ` Sami Mujawar
2021-10-19 13:06 ` Min Xu
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