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From: "Min Xu" <min.m.xu@intel.com>
To: "devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
	"ardb@kernel.org" <ardb@kernel.org>
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>,
	"Aktas, Erdem" <erdemaktas@google.com>,
	James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>, "Lu, Ken" <ken.lu@intel.com>,
	"Xu, Min M" <min.m.xu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] measurement to command-line/initrd for loading kernel via -kernel option
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 02:13:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <PH0PR11MB50640586CDB43B707746038BC54D9@PH0PR11MB5064.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXEVvOWPdVr6VrsCGR1LnVBZvepLcVOpBXqS6zGj-h23Qw@mail.gmail.com>

On September 18, 2022 8:52 PM, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> Hello Min Xu,
> 
> On Sat, 17 Sept 2022 at 04:53, Xu, Min M <min.m.xu@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Ard
> >
> > I am checking the measurement behavior when loading the kernel via the
> QEMU -kernel option. I find it is implemented by below 2 driver/lib:
> >
> > - OvmfPkg/QemuKernelLoaderFsDxe
> >
> >  This is a separate DXE driver that exposes the virtual SimpleFileSystem
> implementation that carries the kernel and initrd passed via the QEMU
> command line.
> >
> > - OvmfPkg/Library/X86QemuLoadImageLib
> >
> >   This is the library that consumes above driver and call
> LoadImage/StartImage so that the kernel image gets authenticated and/or
> measured.
> >
> > See https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/55381
> >
> >
> >
> > I have some questions about the implementation need your help.
> >
> > 2. Kernel image is authenticated and/or measured in LoadImage. I am
> wondering if “command line” is measured as well? “Command line” can be
> treated as an external input and in my opinion it should be measured too.
> >
> > 3. The same question to initrd. Is it measured?
> >
> 
> The initrd is measured by the EFI stub in Linux, and we are currently adding
> measurement of the load options to that as well:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220916081441.1993492-2-
> ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org/
> 
> The initrd is Linux specific in any case, so there, the Linux OS loader is a
> natural place to take care of this. The load options are being added because
> of the oversight in the TCG spec, which only covers load options if they are
> part of a Boot#### option, but between
> LoadImage() and StartImage, you can pass any load options you want via the
> loaded image protocol, so it needs to be measured as well.
> 
Thanks Ard for the explanation. 
I was told that in grub boot cmd-line/initrd will be measured as well. So my question is that will they be measured twice? One in grub.efi, the other in efi-stub?

My understanding is that the loader should take the responsibility to do the measurement. 
For grub boot, grub.efi is the loader so it measures kernel-image/cmd-line/initrd. 
For direct boot, TryRunningQemuKernel() now measures kernel image (in CoreLoadImage). Shall it also measure cmd-line/initrd in the same time?

Thanks
Min

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-19  2:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-17  2:52 measurement to command-line/initrd for loading kernel via -kernel option Min Xu
2022-09-18 12:52 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-09-19  2:13   ` Min Xu [this message]
2022-09-19  6:58     ` [edk2-devel] " Ard Biesheuvel
2022-09-20  0:20       ` Min Xu
2022-09-20 12:29         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-09-20 12:55       ` Lu, Ken
2022-09-20 13:03         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-09-20 13:24           ` Lu, Ken
2022-09-20 13:43             ` James Bottomley
2022-09-20 14:34               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-09-20 14:51             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-09-20 15:14               ` Lu, Ken
2022-09-20 13:20         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-09-20 13:38           ` Lu, Ken
2022-09-20 14:18             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-09-20 14:30               ` Lu, Ken
2022-09-21  7:14                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-09-21 11:24                   ` Lu, Ken
2022-09-21 12:27                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-09-21 15:41                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-09-23  9:34                         ` Ilias Apalodimas

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