From: "Min Xu" <min.m.xu@intel.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
"Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
"devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
"Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>,
"Justen, Jordan L" <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>,
Erdem Aktas <erdemaktas@google.com>,
"James Bottomley" <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH V7 1/1] OvmfPkg: Enable TDX in ResetVector
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2021 06:55:29 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <PH0PR11MB5064B0DCAF921E1E4AED1A88C5A49@PH0PR11MB5064.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210924052825.2qljhtvweonbov5q@sirius.home.kraxel.org>
On September 24, 2021 1:28 PM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > > SEV hardware does not have a concept of the metadata. To boot SEV
> > > guest we need to pass some information to VMM and in past those
> > > information were passed through SNP_BOOT_BLOCK (GUIDed structure)
> > > but Gerd recommended that it will be good idea if both SEV and TDX
> > > uses a common metadata approach to pass these information. I
> > > personally think it was a good suggestion. So, in SNP series I went
> > > ahead and created a generic metadata structure and hope that TDX
> > > will build on it. The user of the metadata structure is VMM (qemu,
> > > etc); while launching the guest the VMM knows whether its creating the
> SEV or TDX guest and will process the entries accordingly.
> > >
> > > As per the number of fields in the metadata is concerns, I felt 3
> > > fields (start, size and type) should be good enough for all the
> > > cases. There was a question from Gerd to Min asking why do you need
> > > the dataoffset/rawdatasize etc and I don't remember seeing the answer
> for it.
> >
> > The discussion is in this link.
> > https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/80289
>
> The question why TDX_BFV_RAW_DATA_OFFSET and
> TDX_BFV_RAW_DATA_SIZE are needed and why TDX_BFV_MEMORY_BASE +
> TDX_BFV_MEMORY_SIZE can't be used is still open.
Here is a BFV metadata.
37 <1> _Bfv:
38 00000140 00400800 <1> DD TDX_BFV_RAW_DATA_OFFSET
39 00000144 00C03700 <1> DD TDX_BFV_RAW_DATA_SIZE
40 00000148 0040C8FF00000000 <1> DQ TDX_BFV_MEMORY_BASE
41 00000150 00C0370000000000 <1> DQ TDX_BFV_MEMORY_SIZE
42 00000158 00000000 <1> DD TDX_METADATA_SECTION_TYPE_BFV
43 0000015C 01000000 <1> DD TDX_METADATA_ATTRIBUTES_EXTENDMR
TDX_BFV_RAW_DATA_OFFSET/TDX_BFV_RAW_DATA_SIZE indicates the offset/size of BFV in Ovmf.fd.
TDX_BFV_MEMORY_BASE/ TDX_BFV_MEMORY_SIZE is the physical memory address which is to be mapped.
TDX-QEMU use these information to 1) do the measurement of the BFV 2) map the BFV to the physical memory
>
> While being at it: The question why "config-b" with a completely different
> initialization code path is needed is still open too. The tdvf design guide is
> not helpful here. Although explains what is different in "config-a" vs. "config-
> b" it does not explain the background, i.e. why some features are supported
> by "config-b" only.
The solution of Config-A and Config-B is to address the concerns of One-Binary requirement.
See Erdem Aktas's comments in this link https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/76339
Quote: "What we are asking with "one binary" is: Simply enabling OVMF + a guest OS to boot in a TDX domain without breaking any existing functionality. Intel should put everything else (specifically related to remote attestation) in a separate platform configuration."
*Config-A* enables a minimum functionality in OvmfPkgX64.dsc without breaking existing functionality.
*Config-B* is a separate platform configuration file can be used to provide all the security guarantees that TDX provides.
>
> And I guess these two questions are related. With "config-a" there is a fixed
> offset between TDX_BFV_RAW_DATA_OFFSET + TDX_BFV_MEMORY_BASE,
> so if you know one of them you can easily calculate the other. With "config-
> b" this is possibly not the case.
>
> So, can you please shed some light on this?
As I explained above how BFV metadata is used by TDX-QEMU, there is no different in Config-A and Config-B.
Below are some links discussing the Config-A and Config-B. Hope it is helpful.
Config-A and Config-B:
https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/76367
Erdem Aktas's comments:
https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/76339
Laszlo's comments
https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/76836
https://edk2.groups.io/g/devel/message/76837
Thanks!
Min
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-24 6:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-09-21 9:05 [PATCH V7 0/1] Add Intel TDX support in OvmfPkg/ResetVector Min Xu
2021-09-21 9:05 ` [PATCH V7 1/1] OvmfPkg: Enable TDX in ResetVector Min Xu
2021-09-22 7:49 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-23 0:38 ` Min Xu
2021-09-23 8:48 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-23 11:39 ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-09-23 12:54 ` Brijesh Singh
2021-09-23 13:18 ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-09-23 13:19 ` [edk2-devel] " Min Xu
2021-09-23 13:38 ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-09-23 14:03 ` Brijesh Singh
2021-09-23 14:15 ` Min Xu
2021-09-23 14:19 ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-09-24 5:37 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-24 7:36 ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-09-24 9:24 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-24 9:55 ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-09-24 5:28 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-24 6:55 ` Min Xu [this message]
2021-09-24 10:07 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-24 10:33 ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-09-24 14:02 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-24 16:40 ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-09-27 8:05 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-27 10:05 ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-09-27 14:59 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-28 0:21 ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-09-24 7:32 ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-09-24 9:15 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-24 4:54 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-24 7:39 ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-09-24 9:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-24 10:11 ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-09-24 10:38 ` Brijesh Singh
2021-09-24 11:17 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-09-24 11:29 ` Brijesh Singh
2021-09-24 10:14 ` Brijesh Singh
2021-09-24 10:58 ` Brijesh Singh
2021-09-25 0:03 ` Min Xu
2021-09-25 3:21 ` Brijesh Singh
2021-09-25 23:17 ` [edk2-devel] " Min Xu
2021-09-25 23:30 ` Yao, Jiewen
2021-09-27 8:44 ` Gerd Hoffmann
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