From: "Zhou, Jianfeng" <jianfeng.zhou@intel.com>
To: Pedro Falcato <pedro.falcato@gmail.com>,
"devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
"lersek@redhat.com" <lersek@redhat.com>
Cc: "Tan, Dun" <dun.tan@intel.com>, "Ni, Ray" <ray.ni@intel.com>,
"Kumar, Rahul R" <rahul.r.kumar@intel.com>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/3] UefiCpuPkg: Reduce and optimize access to attribute
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 00:47:35 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <PH7PR11MB667309E3EF80176735319BF0EF452@PH7PR11MB6673.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKbZUD1k2s2eMM-7d83oR5oTC2z4ZGL_ikMdmK_VRkfVhyFykA@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Laszlo, Pedro,
Clarify one thing, this change is not for racing introduced by MP reading/writing to the same page table at the same time, but for unexpected behavior introduced by compiler.
As my understanding, MP reading/writing to the same page table at the same time is not recommended, perhaps, it is not allowed.
For bit operation code, such as Pnle->Bits.Present = Attribute->Bits.Present, we might think it is atomic assignment, while not. The assembly code looks like:
and dword [rcx], 0xfffffffe
and eax, 0x1
or [rcx], eax
In case Pnle->Bits.Present = 1, Attribute->Bits.Present = 1, we might think it is harmless, as the value not changed. While actually,
and dword [rcx], 0xfffffffe // the present bit set to 0 ---- this is unexpected !!!!! we don’t want the present bit set to 0!
and eax, 0x1
or [rcx], eax // the present bit set to right value 1
Let's consider such a MP scenario:
1) one processor executing instruction "and dword [rcx], 0xfffffffe"
2) other processors happened to access the memory mapped by Pnle, it may lead to exception.
We hit this case recently. Several engineers pay days for test, root case and verification: the reproducibility rate is low and not reproduced on every system.
We can fix it by other solution, while we decided to upstream this change for:
1) the change is harmless
2) It is a defect
3) It hard to debug and root cause
4) We don't want other engineers to spend a lot of time dealing with this kind of problem.
Thanks & Regards,
Zhou Jianfeng
-----Original Message-----
From: Pedro Falcato <pedro.falcato@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 1:35 AM
To: devel@edk2.groups.io; lersek@redhat.com
Cc: Tan, Dun <dun.tan@intel.com>; Zhou, Jianfeng <jianfeng.zhou@intel.com>; Ni, Ray <ray.ni@intel.com>; Kumar, Rahul R <rahul.r.kumar@intel.com>; Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/3] UefiCpuPkg: Reduce and optimize access to attribute
On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 1:32 PM Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 2/5/24 15:03, duntan wrote:
> > From: Zhou Jianfeng <jianfeng.zhou@intel.com>
> >
> > This commit is to reduce and optimize access to attribute in
> > CpuPageTableLib.
> >
> > Unreasonable writing to attribute of page table may leads to
> > expection.
> > The assembly code for C code Pnle->Bits.Present =
> > Attribute->Bits.Present looks like:
> > and dword [rcx], 0xfffffffe
> > and eax, 0x1
> > or [rcx], eax
> > In case Pnle->Bits.Present and Attribute->Bits.Present is 1,
> > Pnle->Bits.Present will be set to 0 for short
> > time(2 instructions) which is unexpected. If some other core is
> > accessing the page, it may leads to expection.
> > This change reduce and optimize access to attribute of page table,
> > attribute of page table is set only when it need to be changed.
>
> This patch does nothing to eliminate the actual race condition, it
> only shrinks the window of potential corruption.
FWIW, it's still not entirely correct: the compiler can tear the Uint64 store.
You'd need something like WRITE_ONCE (which in Linux essentially does *(volatile Type *) ptr = val;)
> The PTEs continue to be overwritten without any kind of
> synchronization with the other processors.
I don't think we should be messing with page tables while APs are up.
That will require a whole infrastructure to do TLB shootdowns.
Zhou, Ray, what exactly is racing here?
--
Pedro
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Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-05 14:03 [edk2-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Fix potential issue in CpuPageTableLib and SMM page table initialization duntan
2024-02-05 14:03 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/3] UefiCpuPkg: Reduce and optimize access to attribute duntan
2024-02-06 1:20 ` Ni, Ray
2024-02-06 13:32 ` Laszlo Ersek
2024-02-06 15:02 ` Ni, Ray
2024-02-06 17:34 ` Pedro Falcato
2024-02-07 0:47 ` Zhou, Jianfeng [this message]
2024-02-07 1:05 ` Pedro Falcato
2024-02-07 1:57 ` Zhou, Jianfeng
2024-02-07 17:52 ` Pedro Falcato
2024-02-07 20:42 ` Laszlo Ersek
2024-02-08 2:29 ` Zhou, Jianfeng
2024-02-07 20:33 ` Laszlo Ersek
2024-02-07 20:17 ` Laszlo Ersek
2024-02-05 14:03 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH 2/3] UefiCpuPkg: Add more Paging mode enumeration duntan
2024-02-06 1:21 ` Ni, Ray
2024-02-05 14:03 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH 3/3] UefiCpuPkg/PiSmmCpuDxeSmm:Map SMRAM in 4K page granularity duntan
2024-02-06 1:23 ` Ni, Ray
2024-02-06 13:33 ` Laszlo Ersek
2024-02-06 1:48 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Fix potential issue in CpuPageTableLib and SMM page table initialization Ni, Ray
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