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Mike,

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Agree wit= h your points. Thanks for sharing the detailed info. Beautifully conveyed!<= o:p>

 

-Karunakar

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From: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@= intel.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 12:30 AM
To: Poosapalli, Karunakar; devel@edk2.groups.io; POLUDOV, FELIX; Yao= , Jiewen
Cc: Kinney, Michael D
Subject: RE: [edk2-devel] =A6^=CE`: [edk2-devel] UEFI spec version in system table, shall we u= pdate it to 2.8?

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Complianc= e of TianoCore is different than Compliance of a platform firmware image.&n= bsp;

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  • TianoCore should only upda= te the version when all of the TianoCore contents conform to the spec versi= on.
  • = If the subset of TainoCore features integrated into a platform firmware ima= ge meets all of a newer spec version requirements and the rest of the platform components also meet a newer spec version, then the platform = firmware image can change the version value to match.

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Without t= he full analysis the TianoCore version can not be updated.

&nbs= p;

The main = purpose of the version values in the UEFI tables is for UEFI Option ROMs, U= EFI Applications, and UEFI OS Loaders to know what UEFI API support is pres= ent and only call services that are known to be present with the expected behavior of those APIs as documented= in that version of the specification.  The use case we do not want to= see is platform firmware publishing a higher version value without a guara= ntee that all the APIs and behavior match. That could cause unexpected behavior from UEFI Drivers, UEFI Applications,= or UEFI OS Loaders.

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Mike=

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From: Poosapalli, Karunakar <KarunakarPoosapalli@Dell.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 9:41 PM
To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; devel@edk2.groups.io; POLUDOV, = FELIX <felixp@ami.com>; Yao, Ji= ewen <jiewen.yao@intel.com&g= t;
Subject: RE: [edk2-devel] =A6^=CE`: [edk2-devel] UEFI spec version in system table, shall we u= pdate it to 2.8?

 

Hi @Kinney, Michael D,

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Thanks fo= r sharing your inputs. Agree with your point.

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As latest= tianocore edk2 already added some of the interfaces or functionalities imp= lemented from v2.8 by different communities,

Can we sa= y it=A1=A6s compliant with v2.8? but as there is no analysis done to see wh= ether all updates from 2.8 is implemented or not we can=A1=A6t say it=A1=A6= s fully 2.8 Supported ?

 

Karunakar=

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From: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 2:34 AM
To: devel@edk2.groups.io= ; Poosapalli, Karunakar; POLUDOV, FELIX; Yao, Jiewen
Cc: Kinney, Michael D
Subject: RE: [edk2-devel] =A6^=CE`: [edk2-devel] UEFI spec version in system table, shall we u= pdate it to 2.8?

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

I do not = think anyone has done the complete analysis since UEFI 2.7.  Some upda= tes from newer specs

have been= added as needed by different community members.

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Unless th= ere are dedicated tasks to review and verify that every spec change has bee= n added to edk2, the version can not be updated.

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Mike=

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From: devel@edk2.groups.io <devel= @edk2.groups.io> On Behalf Of Poosapalli, Karunakar via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 11:18 AM
To: Poosapalli, Karunakar <KarunakarPoosapalli@Dell.com>; devel@edk2.groups.io; POLUDOV, = FELIX <felixp@ami.com>; Yao, Ji= ewen <jiewen.yao@intel.com&g= t;
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] =A6^=CE`: [edk2-devel] UEFI spec version in system table, shall we u= pdate it to 2.8?

 

Hi All,

 

Can you please share your thoughts if any idea in ED= K2 compliance with UEFI 2.8 Support ?

 

From UEFI sources and latest edk2 master branch is s= till at 2.7. Same for latest stable tag edk2-stable202308.

https://github.com/tianocore/edk2.git [github.com]

#define EFI_SYSTEM_TABLE_= REVISION       EFI_2_70_SYSTEM_TABLE_REVISION=

#define EFI_SPECIFICATION= _VERSION       EFI_SYSTEM_TABLE_REVISION=

 

 

But we could see some of the features from 2.8 is al= ready available and UEFI 2.9 spec also released but system table in edk2 is= still pointing to 2.7.

 

Curious to know, Whether latest edk2 is not fully co= mpliance with 2.8 or only system table update is missing for 2.8=

 

 

From: karunakar_poosapalli via groups.io <= karunakar_poos= apalli=3Ddell.com@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 10:41 PM
To: Poosapalli, Karunakar; d= evel@edk2.groups.io
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] =A6^=CE`: [edk2-devel] UEFI spec version in system table, shall we u= pdate it to 2.8?

 

[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

In latest tianocore edk= 2 (https://github.com/tianocore/edk2 [github.com] ), we can see System table is still pointing to 2.70 Vers= ion(EFI_2_70_SYSTEM_TABLE_REVISION)

https://github.com/ti= anocore/edk2/blob/master/MdePkg/Include/Uefi/UefiSpec.h [github.com]

//=

// EFI Runtime Serv= ices Table

//=

#define EFI_SYSTEM_= TABLE_SIGNATURE      SIGNATURE_64 ('I','B','I',' '= ,'S','Y','S','T')

#define EFI_2_80_SY= STEM_TABLE_REVISION  ((2 << 16) | (80))

#define EFI_2_70_SY= STEM_TABLE_REVISION  ((2 << 16) | (70))

#define EFI_2_60_SY= STEM_TABLE_REVISION  ((2 << 16) | (60))

#define EFI_2_50_SY= STEM_TABLE_REVISION  ((2 << 16) | (50))

#define EFI_2_40_SY= STEM_TABLE_REVISION  ((2 << 16) | (40))

#define EFI_2_31_SY= STEM_TABLE_REVISION  ((2 << 16) | (31))

#define EFI_2_30_SY= STEM_TABLE_REVISION  ((2 << 16) | (30))

#define EFI_2_20_SY= STEM_TABLE_REVISION  ((2 << 16) | (20))

#define EFI_2_10_SY= STEM_TABLE_REVISION  ((2 << 16) | (10))

#define EFI_2_00_SY= STEM_TABLE_REVISION  ((2 << 16) | (00))

#define EFI_1_10_SY= STEM_TABLE_REVISION  ((1 << 16) | (10))

#define EFI_1_02_SY= STEM_TABLE_REVISION  ((1 << 16) | (02))

#define EFI_SYSTEM_= TABLE_REVISION       EFI_2_70_SYSTEM_TABLE_RE= VISION

#define EFI_SPECIFI= CATION_VERSION       EFI_SYSTEM_TABLE_REVISIO= N

 <= o:p>

#define EFI_RUNTIME= _SERVICES_SIGNATURE  SIGNATURE_64 ('R','U','N','T','S','E','R','V')

#define EFI_RUNTIME= _SERVICES_REVISION   EFI_SPECIFICATION_VERSION

 

Does it mean latest tianocore is still not = UEFI 2.8 version support or it supports 2.8 functionalities but the table v= ersion number is not yet updated?

 

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