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From: "Xiang, Qinglan" <qinglan.xiang@intel.com>
To: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	"devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
	"kraxel@redhat.com" <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: "Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
	Dionna Amalie Glaze <dionnaglaze@google.com>,
	Mikko Ylinen <mikko.ylinen@linux.intel.com>,
	"James Bottomley" <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	"qinkun Bao" <qinkun@google.com>,
	"linux-coco@lists.linux.dev" <linux-coco@lists.linux.dev>,
	"Aktas, Erdem" <erdemaktas@google.com>,
	"Peter Gonda" <pgonda@google.com>,
	"Johnson, Simon P" <simon.p.johnson@intel.com>,
	Cfir Cohen <cfir@google.com>,
	"Annapurve, Vishal" <vannapurve@google.com>,
	"Madhanagopal, Ranga" <ranga.madhanagopal@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [RFC PATCH] OvmfPkg/SecurityPkg: Add build option for coexistance of vTPM and RTMR.
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 17:10:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SN6PR11MB35044E55A04044CA55C5D22BEA052@SN6PR11MB3504.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <226ff307-991d-693a-1bca-837931d08604@amd.com>

+ Cfir, Vishal and Ranga for awareness. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 7:08 AM
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>; devel@edk2.groups.io; kraxel@redhat.com
Cc: Yao, Jiewen <jiewen.yao@intel.com>; Dionna Amalie Glaze <dionnaglaze@google.com>; Mikko Ylinen <mikko.ylinen@linux.intel.com>; James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>; Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>; qinkun Bao <qinkun@google.com>; linux-coco@lists.linux.dev; Aktas, Erdem <erdemaktas@google.com>; Peter Gonda <pgonda@google.com>; Johnson, Simon P <simon.p.johnson@intel.com>; Xiang, Qinglan <qinglan.xiang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [RFC PATCH] OvmfPkg/SecurityPkg: Add build option for coexistance of vTPM and RTMR.

On 4/11/24 05:33, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 at 12:29, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 09:56:48AM +0000, Yao, Jiewen wrote:
>>> Please allow me to clarify what you are proposing:
>>> Do you mean in vTPM case, we extend both, but we only need TCG event log, NOT CC event log?
>>
>> Elsewhere in this thread it was mentioned that writing both vTPM and 
>> RTMR events to the event log is problematic because the event log 
>> format has no field to specify whenever a given event was measured to 
>> vTPM or RTMR.
>>
>> If the firmware can make sure all events are measured to both vTPM 
>> and RTMR the need to trace them separately goes away.
>>
>> So, yes, in case a vTPM is present the firmware would:
>>    (a) expose EFI_TCG2_PROTOCOL, measure to both vTPM + RTMR
>>    (b) not expose EFI_CC_MEASUREMENT_PROTOCOL
>>    (c) log measurements to TCG event log
>>
> 
> A TDX attestation would require the PCR to RTMR mapping used by the 
> firmware in order to reconstruct the RTMR values from the TCG event 
> log, but that seems feasible to me.
> 
> In any case, I think it should be the guest firmware's job to abstract 
> away the difference.

Agreed, this approach seems to be the best way forward.

Thanks,
Tom


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  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-11 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-21 16:59 [edk2-devel] [RFC PATCH] OvmfPkg/SecurityPkg: Add build option for coexistance of vTPM and RTMR qinkun Bao via groups.io
2024-03-21 17:46 ` Dionna Glaze via groups.io
2024-03-22  2:39   ` Yao, Jiewen
2024-03-22  8:52     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2024-03-22 14:56       ` Dionna Glaze via groups.io
2024-03-22 17:28         ` qinkun Bao via groups.io
2024-03-25 13:07         ` Mikko Ylinen
2024-03-25 15:28           ` Dionna Glaze via groups.io
2024-04-11  1:20             ` Yao, Jiewen
2024-04-11  6:23               ` qinkun Bao via groups.io
2024-04-11  6:52               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-04-11  8:07                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2024-04-11  9:56                   ` Yao, Jiewen
2024-04-11 10:29                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2024-04-11 10:33                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-04-11 14:07                         ` Lendacky, Thomas via groups.io
2024-04-11 17:10                           ` Xiang, Qinglan [this message]
2024-04-13  9:36                 ` qinkun Bao via groups.io
2024-04-15 14:42                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
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2024-04-09 19:16       ` [edk2-devel] [linux-collab] [CCC][tac] " qinkun Bao via groups.io

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