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From: "Abner Chang" <abner.chang@hpe.com>
To: "devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
	"leif@nuviainc.com" <leif@nuviainc.com>
Cc: "lersek@redhat.com" <lersek@redhat.com>,
	"Schaefer, Daniel (DualStudy)" <daniel.schaefer@hpe.com>,
	"Chen, Gilbert" <gilbert.chen@hpe.com>,
	"afish@apple.com" <afish@apple.com>,
	"michael.d.kinney@intel.com" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	"pete@akeo.ie" <pete@akeo.ie>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 3/3] MdeModulePkg: Use CopyMem instead of GUID assignment
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 14:59:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <TU4PR8401MB0429A79E1E207266AD5CFFC8FFF80@TU4PR8401MB0429.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200313101045.GN23627@bivouac.eciton.net>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: devel@edk2.groups.io [mailto:devel@edk2.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Leif Lindholm
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 6:11 PM
> To: Chang, Abner (HPS SW/FW Technologist) <abner.chang@hpe.com>
> Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io; lersek@redhat.com; Schaefer, Daniel (DualStudy)
> <daniel.schaefer@hpe.com>; Chen, Gilbert <gilbert.chen@hpe.com>;
> afish@apple.com; michael.d.kinney@intel.com; pete@akeo.ie; Ard
> Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 3/3] MdeModulePkg: Use CopyMem
> instead of GUID assignment
> 
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 04:08:12 +0000, Chang, Abner (HPS SW/FW
> Technologist) wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Leif Lindholm [mailto:leif@nuviainc.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 5:20 AM
> > > To: devel@edk2.groups.io; lersek@redhat.com
> > > Cc: Chang, Abner (HPS SW/FW Technologist) <abner.chang@hpe.com>;
> > > Schaefer, Daniel (DualStudy) <daniel.schaefer@hpe.com>; Chen,
> > > Gilbert <gilbert.chen@hpe.com>; afish@apple.com;
> > > michael.d.kinney@intel.com; pete@akeo.ie; Ard Biesheuvel
> > > <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 3/3] MdeModulePkg: Use
> CopyMem
> > > instead of GUID assignment
> >
> > The current NULL instance of CompilerIntrinsicsLib is applied on every
> > modules, this means it's not flexible for overwriting memcpy (for
> > example) with the faster algorithm (such as SSEx instructions) for the
> > specific module in the same DSC, right? That says we can't assign a
> > special version of memcpy to just one particular module.
> 
> All true.
> But ... are you planning to contribute lots of code that performs large
> (certainly larger than GUIDs in order for effects to be
> noticeable) struct assignments on critical paths?
A huge block of memory copy or set indeed a requirement of HPE server BIOS for graphic mode BIOS setup without VGA H/W accelerator and others such as memory test, but it is x86 system though. . Respond to your feedback below, that should be fine if new code just use CopyMem for the high performance memory operations. RISC-V has no problem with using intrinsic memcpy, there is no strong performance requirements for memory operations so far...maybe later. 
> 
> Even if that is the case, as commented on the other fork of this
> thread: if we add the -O3 jiggle, GCC will automatically insert what it
> considers to be the optimal implementation for the specified target when
> encountering the naïve implementation.
> 
> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 20:42:52 +0100, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> > > > On 03/12/20 15:44, Leif Lindholm wrote:
> > > > > And what would you propose we do the next time the RISC-V
> > > > > toolchain generates a memcpy call based on some other completely
> > > > > valid change to core code?
> > > >
> > > > We could choose to enable the intrinsics library for RISC-V at that point.
> >
> > and I would like to see the flexibility of overwriting memory library
> > functions for particular modules. There is no special algorithm of
> > memory manipulation so far in RISC-V spec, however, the working group
> > of Vector extension does propose the new instruction sets.
> 
> Use of CompilerIntrinsicsLib has no effect on explicit CopyMem & co
> operations, only on memcpy/memset generated by the compiler. Which will
> generate build failures if not handled.
> 
> /
>     Leif
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-15 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-02 10:32 [PATCH v2 0/3] Allow building MdeModulePkg on non-x86 Daniel Schaefer
2020-03-02 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] MdeModulePkg: Restrict libraries using SMM to x86 Daniel Schaefer
2020-03-02 13:18   ` [edk2-devel] " Liming Gao
2020-03-02 17:38     ` Daniel Schaefer
2020-03-02 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] MdeModulePkg: Set PcdDxeIplSwitchToLongMode false on non-x86 Daniel Schaefer
2020-03-02 13:19   ` Liming Gao
2020-03-02 17:36     ` Daniel Schaefer
2020-03-02 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] MdeModulePkg: Use CopyMem instead of GUID assignment Daniel Schaefer
2020-03-02 13:38   ` [edk2-devel] " Liming Gao
2020-03-05  0:39   ` Dandan Bi
2020-03-12  5:58     ` [edk2-devel] " Wang, Jian J
2020-03-12  6:00       ` Abner Chang
2020-03-12 10:55   ` Leif Lindholm
2020-03-12 12:21     ` Ni, Ray
2020-03-12 13:53       ` [EXTERNAL] " Leif Lindholm
2020-03-20  7:24         ` Ni, Ray
2020-03-12 13:24     ` Daniel Schaefer
2020-03-12 14:03       ` Leif Lindholm
2020-03-12 14:33         ` Abner Chang
2020-03-12 14:44           ` Leif Lindholm
2020-03-12 14:57             ` Leif Lindholm
2020-03-13  3:57               ` Abner Chang
2020-03-12 19:42             ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-03-12 21:19               ` Leif Lindholm
2020-03-13  4:08                 ` Abner Chang
2020-03-13 10:10                   ` Leif Lindholm
2020-03-15 14:59                     ` Abner Chang [this message]
2020-03-13 16:36                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-03-12 19:36         ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-03-12 19:51           ` Andrew Fish
2020-03-12 21:04           ` Leif Lindholm

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