From: "dann frazier" <dann.frazier@canonical.com>
To: James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
Mike Maslenkin <mike.maslenkin@gmail.com>,
devel@edk2.groups.io, michael.d.kinney@intel.com,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>,
Jiewen Yao <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
Jordan Justen <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>,
Sebastien Boeuf <sebastien.boeuf@intel.com>,
Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
Erdem Aktas <erdemaktas@google.com>, Min Xu <min.m.xu@intel.com>,
Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
1016359@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [Patch 1/2] OvmfPkg: Change default to disable MptScsi and PvScsi
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2022 14:59:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y5EMsn08LIkbF9ly@xps13.dannf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9365af87923dc2dd59b7cd6aa59e1fba33f4bb5a.camel@linux.ibm.com>
On Wed, Dec 07, 2022 at 11:22:10AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-12-07 at 17:04 +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 17:02, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 07, 2022 at 09:14:39AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2022-12-07 at 15:09 +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > > > > So at some point, these drivers will be removed rather than
> > > > > kept
> > > > > alive by the core team unless someone steps up.
> > > >
> > > > How important is keeping them alive?
> > >
> > > Most common use case is probably bootimg images created on other
> > > hypervisors on qemu. Otherwise there is little reason to use
> > > something which is not virtio-scsi.
> > >
> > > > I can volunteer to "maintain" them which I anticipate won't be
> > > > much effort (plus I'm used to looking after obsolete SCSI
> > > > equipment). The hardware is obsolete, so the mechanics of their
> > > > emulation isn't going to change, the only potential risk is
> > > > changes in the guest to host transmission layer that breaks
> > > > something.
> > >
> >
> > Thanks James, that would be very helpful.
> >
> > > Yes, I don't expect it being much effort, but knowing oldish scsi
> > > stuff certainly helps understanding the driver code if needed. If
> > > you want step up sent a patch updating Maintainers.txt accordingly.
> > >
> >
> > Having the informed opinion of a domain expert should allow us to
> > diagnose issued related to these drivers with more confidence, and
> > also give us insight in how obsolete those drivers actually are.
> >
> > I can send the patch if you prefer.
>
> Sure, who can resist someone else doing all the work.
>
> I note we do have a maintained LSI driver: OvmfPkg/LsiScsiDxe. It
> seems to be based on the 53c896 which is really only a marginal subset
> of the 1030 ... if I'm remembering correctly the 1030 did Low Voltage
> Differential (so a faster SCSI Parallel bus), but since that's a SCSI
> Bus protocol, it should have no real impact on the utility of the
> emulation. Is the LsiScsiDxe usable by Debian?
I tried it, but it doesn't seem to enumerate any blk devices.
The driver loads and reports that it is managing a device:
Shell> drivers
T D
D Y C I
R P F A
V VERSION E G G #D #C DRIVER NAME IMAGE NAME
== ======== = = = == == =================================== ==========
[...]
6E 00000010 D - - 1 - LSI 53C895A SCSI Controller Driver LsiScsiDxe
[...]
But no blk devices. Using the same VM config and just swapping the
controller from lsilogic to virtio-scsi, yields the expected blk
devices.
To be clear, I'm unaware of OVMF ever working with this device in
Debian.
-dann
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-12-07 21:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-26 19:46 [Patch 0/2] Remove MptScsi and PvScsi reviewers Michael D Kinney
2022-07-26 19:46 ` [Patch 1/2] OvmfPkg: Change default to disable MptScsi and PvScsi Michael D Kinney
2022-12-05 23:36 ` [edk2-devel] " dann frazier
2022-12-06 1:25 ` Michael D Kinney
2022-12-06 2:07 ` dann frazier
2022-12-06 5:56 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-12-06 14:37 ` dann frazier
2022-12-06 14:55 ` Mike Maslenkin
2022-12-07 7:41 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-12-07 14:09 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-12-07 14:14 ` James Bottomley
2022-12-07 16:01 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-12-07 16:04 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-12-07 16:22 ` James Bottomley
2022-12-07 21:59 ` dann frazier [this message]
2022-07-26 19:46 ` [Patch 2/2] Maintainers.txt: Remove MptScsi and PvScsi reviewers Michael D Kinney
2022-07-26 20:39 ` [Patch 0/2] " Ard Biesheuvel
2022-07-27 0:38 ` Yao, Jiewen
2022-08-15 15:00 ` Gerd Hoffmann
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