From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp26.services.sfr.fr (smtp26.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.2]) by mx.groups.io with SMTP id smtpd.web10.9059.1675427381092181657 for ; Fri, 03 Feb 2023 04:29:41 -0800 Authentication-Results: mx.groups.io; dkim=fail reason="no key for verify" header.i=@polynum.com header.s=202006 header.b=O3k6Lo9l; spf=pass (domain: sfr.fr, ip: 93.17.128.2, mailfrom: thierry.laronde@sfr.fr) X-mail-filterd: {"version":"1.6.0","queueID":"4P7ZjH2wwNz1LQKd7","contextId": "e8489780-02bd-4f63-a9a9-be6ad36210e9"} Received: from cauchy.polynum.local (20.204.0.93.rev.sfr.net [93.0.204.20]) by msfrf2605.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4P7ZjH2wwNz1LQKd7; Fri, 3 Feb 2023 13:29:39 +0100 (CET) X-mail-filterd: {"version":"1.6.0","queueID":"4P7ZjG5B7qz1LQKdj","contextId": "c49004c7-f624-46f0-ae65-b9cec23e67f5"} X-sfr-mailing: LEGIT X-sfr-spamrating: 36 X-sfr-spam: not-spam DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=polynum.com; s=202006; t=1675427379; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; bh=FPO+mDiFa8 FC72uWDIvF2S9LE+B/YCzW8LuHJbj4qKg=; b=O3k6Lo9ldLJcAegvxTPepVH17on1CCXfKSly7k b1iVJECl+Be0xjDAzH0Aebzg8jVSktfRcnT6t+f4Jo141cW10xMtHmCViuxIm1N8519sN3YmSkaG 2FoUZoA2dVSOKbiiiBAnaOYW9h8hdSwuAfvzfgGLvkIOy/8nTnJxkgg873VhIT+PJaAzKmRBPCgx wWqVM4J/YmkIpjycHDmuHze3tN42kabDv1v5vK+PDOOdkJwBG6rhgtsHhNwyqXFkV0jgy6Jj9EeF OCrj9p7Zi3KivXLhkz4D3NRS2BlpVnJfcA+dWSWLWw6vWYnFF/Osf8uyopGYfDD8fjB/YIJJSCAQ == Received: from cauchy.polynum.local (20.204.0.93.rev.sfr.net [93.0.204.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: thierry.laronde@sfr.fr) by msfrf2605.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTPSA id 4P7ZjG5B7qz1LQKdj; Fri, 3 Feb 2023 13:29:38 +0100 (CET) Authentication-Results: sfr.fr; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=thierry.laronde@sfr.fr Received: from cauchy.polynum.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cauchy.polynum.local (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 313CTbJn002668; Fri, 3 Feb 2023 13:29:37 +0100 (CET) Received: (from tlaronde@localhost) by cauchy.polynum.local (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id 313CTbA6002361; Fri, 3 Feb 2023 13:29:37 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: cauchy.polynum.local: tlaronde set sender to thierry.laronde@sfr.fr using -f Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2023 13:29:37 +0100 From: "tlaronde@polynum.com" To: Rebecca Cran Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io, brian.johnson@hpe.com, Gerd Hoffmann , Andrew Fish , Leif Lindholm , Michael D Kinney Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] edk2setup.sh shortcomings Message-ID: References: <20230202165032.e2kvjxsntrmhc3ue@sirius.home.kraxel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, Feb 02, 2023 at 04:06:13PM -0700, Rebecca Cran a =E9crit : > On 2/2/23 14:49, Brian J. Johnson wrote: >=20 This above is misleading: this is not Brian J. Johnson who wrote what is below: this is me (Thierry Laronde): > > Hum... There is a very lethal weapon actually in use: the pillow. I > > already sent various patches and they are silently ignored... > >=20 > > If my contribution will be ignored as others have been till now, hone= sty > > should be to clearly state: "we don't care and we won't care" so that > > I can use my time trying to solve the problems I want to address at a > > different level than UEFI... >=20 And you wrote (Rebecca Cran): > I prefer to think that patches I've submitted are _missed_ rather than > ignored. It's still frustrating to realize that patches I've sent 6 mon= ths > ago were never committed, even if they were reviewed. >=20 > I suspect part of the problem is that many people working on edk2 are i= n > companies which use Outlook, which can make keeping track of high traff= ic > mailing lists difficult. >=20 > And even in Thunderbird, if all edk2-devel emails go into a single fold= er it > can be difficult to keep track of patches. >=20 > I'm hoping that moving to Github PRs will improve things, with queries = like > "is:open is:pr review-requested:@me" letting people easily find PRs tha= t > need attention - though the UI looks like it could use some work to all= ow > people to save their queries etc. Not to mention the fact that to have the obligation to send endlessly the= same patches does nothing to decrease the trafic on the mailing list. I ask only for honesty: if this is open source but not open development, or if this is restricted open development i.e. only to big firms providin= g either hardware or OSes, this is no problem with me as long as it is stated. --=20 Thierry Laronde http://www.kergis.com/ http://kertex.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint =3D 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C