From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.bluestop.org [74.50.51.35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ml01.01.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0101C1A1E03 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2016 19:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from muon.bluestop.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E4D84D99; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 02:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by muon.bluestop.org (muon.bluestop.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id XCEDYi8rRv7s; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 02:25:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.17] (c-67-171-116-44.hsd1.ut.comcast.net [67.171.116.44]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 02:25:54 +0000 (UTC) To: Andrew Fish , Laszlo Ersek References: <44fc515a-ce09-f8d0-88e3-ea665f34a11f@redhat.com> <85D48248-620C-4675-A090-C47C68ABC145@apple.com> Cc: edk2-devel-01 From: Bruce Cran Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 20:25:53 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <85D48248-620C-4675-A090-C47C68ABC145@apple.com> Subject: Re: Ingebrigtsen: The End of Gmane? X-BeenThere: edk2-devel@lists.01.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: EDK II Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 02:25:57 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/28/2016 1:19 PM, Andrew Fish wrote: > Seems he will send you the disks. What could go wrong? I'm actually tempted to take him up on that offer. Just today I went looking for information about UefiDebugLib to see if it was possible for a driver to print debug information to the serial port (or other sort of debug device) instead of the console, and came across the thread at http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.bios.tianocore.devel/3024 where thanks to Google's cache I learned that: "The EDK used some Tiano and implementation defined protocols to support DEBUG and ASSERT macros. So DEBUG and ASSERT from the EDK can only be reliably used if you compile all the EDK firmware together. As Liming points out it is much safer to use a UEFI console based debug message for developing generic drivers and applications." It's a shame to lose information like that. -- Bruce