Re: Tianocore Bugzilla Server is now live

Re: Tianocore Bugzilla Server is now live

[Michael Zimmermann]

Is it just my account or does everybody have the permission "editbugs Can
edit all bug fields"?

It sounds like this is something only moderators should be able to do.

Thanks
Michael

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 8:43 PM, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 07/21/16 20:07, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
> > Laszlo,
> >
> > Try again...it was disabled for a short period of time.
>
> Yes, it's working now.
>
> I'll let you know when I'm done with the clipboard "wizardry" and the
> occasional reformatting :)
>
> Thanks!
> Laszlo
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of
> Laszlo Ersek
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:33 AM
> >> To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
> >> Cc: edk2-devel-01 <edk2-devel@ml01.01.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [edk2] Tianocore Bugzilla Server is now live
> >>
> >> On 07/21/16 19:05, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
> >>> Laszlo,
> >>>
> >>> Yes.  We can hold off disabling GitHub.  Let us know when you are
> ready.
> >>
> >> Thank you! However, github is rejecting my new comments in the browser
> >> tabs that I have open already, and it rejects my fresh requests for
> >> issue URLs.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Laszlo
>
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Re: Tianocore Bugzilla Server is now live

[Kinney, Michael D]

Michael,

I am open to suggestions on this topic.

If there is a strong opinion that we need to protect specific fields from being modified, then we can look into updating the configuration.

I think with Bugzilla change history and edk2-bugs mailing list, we can all see the changes to any issue, so even if someone does do an incorrect edit, I think we can put it back.

Mike


From: Michael Zimmermann [mailto:sigmaepsilon92@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 11:57 AM
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Cc: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; edk2-devel-01 <edk2-devel@ml01.01.org>
Subject: Re: [edk2] Tianocore Bugzilla Server is now live

Is it just my account or does everybody have the permission "editbugs      Can edit all bug fields"?

It sounds like this is something only moderators should be able to do.

Thanks
Michael

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 8:43 PM, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com<mailto:lersek@redhat.com>> wrote:
On 07/21/16 20:07, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
> Laszlo,
>
> Try again...it was disabled for a short period of time.

Yes, it's working now.

I'll let you know when I'm done with the clipboard "wizardry" and the
occasional reformatting :)

Thanks!
Laszlo

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org<mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org>] On Behalf Of Laszlo Ersek
>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:33 AM
>> To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com<mailto:michael.d.kinney@intel.com>>
>> Cc: edk2-devel-01 <edk2-devel@ml01.01.org<mailto:edk2-devel@ml01.01.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [edk2] Tianocore Bugzilla Server is now live
>>
>> On 07/21/16 19:05, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
>>> Laszlo,
>>>
>>> Yes.  We can hold off disabling GitHub.  Let us know when you are ready.
>>
>> Thank you! However, github is rejecting my new comments in the browser
>> tabs that I have open already, and it rejects my fresh requests for
>> issue URLs.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Laszlo
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Re: Tianocore Bugzilla Server is now live

[Laszlo Ersek]

On 08/02/16 20:57, Michael Zimmermann wrote:
> Is it just my account or does everybody have the permission "editbugsCan
> edit all bug fields"?
> 
> It sounds like this is something only moderators should be able to do.

Indeed I noticed this permission when I last looked (in the "whine" thread).

I think it might make sense to restrict this permission to package
maintainers. And, I think "refinements" beyond that should not be
necessary -- I for one certainly would like to be able to edit all
bugzilla fields, regardless of their current values! :)

Thanks
Laszlo

> 
> Thanks
> Michael
> 
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 8:43 PM, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com
> <mailto:lersek@redhat.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 07/21/16 20:07, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
>     > Laszlo,
>     >
>     > Try again...it was disabled for a short period of time.
> 
>     Yes, it's working now.
> 
>     I'll let you know when I'm done with the clipboard "wizardry" and the
>     occasional reformatting :)
> 
>     Thanks!
>     Laszlo
> 
>     >> -----Original Message-----
>     >> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org
>     <mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org>] On Behalf Of Laszlo Ersek
>     >> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:33 AM
>     >> To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com <mailto:michael.d.kinney@intel.com>>
>     >> Cc: edk2-devel-01 <edk2-devel@ml01.01.org <mailto:edk2-devel@ml01.01.org>>
>     >> Subject: Re: [edk2] Tianocore Bugzilla Server is now live
>     >>
>     >> On 07/21/16 19:05, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
>     >>> Laszlo,
>     >>>
>     >>> Yes.  We can hold off disabling GitHub.  Let us know when you are ready.
>     >>
>     >> Thank you! However, github is rejecting my new comments in the browser
>     >> tabs that I have open already, and it rejects my fresh requests for
>     >> issue URLs.
>     >>
>     >> Thanks,
>     >> Laszlo
> 
>     _______________________________________________
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>     edk2-devel@lists.01.org <mailto:edk2-devel@lists.01.org>
>     https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel
> 
> 

Re: Tianocore Bugzilla Server is now live

[Laszlo Ersek]

On 08/02/16 21:10, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
> Michael,
> 
> I am open to suggestions on this topic.
> 
> If there is a strong opinion that we need to protect specific fields
> from being modified, then we can look into updating the configuration.
> 
> I think with Bugzilla change history and edk2-bugs mailing list, we can
> all see the changes to any issue, so even if someone does do an
> incorrect edit, I think we can put it back.

Does "editbugs" include changing the product from "Tianocore Security
Issues" to something else, possibly exposing the security issue to the
world?

Hm... It probably doesn't matter. If a security issue can be looked at
(which is a pre-requisite for the product field to be changed) by anyone
in the first place, then they can expose the contents to the world in
other ways too. :)

So I think trusting all registered accounts with "editbugs" is a good
starting point too.

Thanks
Laszlo


> *From:*Michael Zimmermann [mailto:sigmaepsilon92@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 2, 2016 11:57 AM
> *To:* Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
> *Cc:* Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; edk2-devel-01
> <edk2-devel@ml01.01.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [edk2] Tianocore Bugzilla Server is now live
> 
>  
> 
> Is it just my account or does everybody have the permission
> "editbugs      Can edit all bug fields"?
> 
>  
> 
> It sounds like this is something only moderators should be able to do.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Michael
> 
>  
> 
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 8:43 PM, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com
> <mailto:lersek@redhat.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 07/21/16 20:07, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
>     > Laszlo,
>     >
>     > Try again...it was disabled for a short period of time.
> 
>     Yes, it's working now.
> 
>     I'll let you know when I'm done with the clipboard "wizardry" and the
>     occasional reformatting :)
> 
>     Thanks!
>     Laszlo
> 
>     >> -----Original Message-----
>     >> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org
>     <mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org>] On Behalf Of Laszlo Ersek
>     >> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:33 AM
>     >> To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com <mailto:michael.d.kinney@intel.com>>
>     >> Cc: edk2-devel-01 <edk2-devel@ml01.01.org <mailto:edk2-devel@ml01.01.org>>
>     >> Subject: Re: [edk2] Tianocore Bugzilla Server is now live
>     >>
>     >> On 07/21/16 19:05, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
>     >>> Laszlo,
>     >>>
>     >>> Yes.  We can hold off disabling GitHub.  Let us know when you are ready.
>     >>
>     >> Thank you! However, github is rejecting my new comments in the browser
>     >> tabs that I have open already, and it rejects my fresh requests for
>     >> issue URLs.
>     >>
>     >> Thanks,
>     >> Laszlo
> 
>     _______________________________________________
>     edk2-devel mailing list
>     edk2-devel@lists.01.org <mailto:edk2-devel@lists.01.org>
>     https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel
> 
>  
> 

Re: Tianocore Bugzilla Server is now live

[Michael Zimmermann]

How are security issues treated in UEFI anyway?
Are they kept a secret forever or just for a specific time span?

A reason for keeping them a secret forever(while pushing
unsuspicious fixes) probably would be the fact that most UEFI systems don't
get updated.

Thanks
Michael

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 08/02/16 21:10, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
> > Michael,
> >
> > I am open to suggestions on this topic.
> >
> > If there is a strong opinion that we need to protect specific fields
> > from being modified, then we can look into updating the configuration.
> >
> > I think with Bugzilla change history and edk2-bugs mailing list, we can
> > all see the changes to any issue, so even if someone does do an
> > incorrect edit, I think we can put it back.
>
> Does "editbugs" include changing the product from "Tianocore Security
> Issues" to something else, possibly exposing the security issue to the
> world?
>
> Hm... It probably doesn't matter. If a security issue can be looked at
> (which is a pre-requisite for the product field to be changed) by anyone
> in the first place, then they can expose the contents to the world in
> other ways too. :)
>
> So I think trusting all registered accounts with "editbugs" is a good
> starting point too.
>
> Thanks
> Laszlo
>
>
> > *From:*Michael Zimmermann [mailto:sigmaepsilon92@gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 2, 2016 11:57 AM
> > *To:* Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
> > *Cc:* Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; edk2-devel-01
> > <edk2-devel@ml01.01.org>
> > *Subject:* Re: [edk2] Tianocore Bugzilla Server is now live
> >
> >
> >
> > Is it just my account or does everybody have the permission
> > "editbugs      Can edit all bug fields"?
> >
> >
> >
> > It sounds like this is something only moderators should be able to do.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 8:43 PM, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com
> > <mailto:lersek@redhat.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 07/21/16 20:07, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
> >     > Laszlo,
> >     >
> >     > Try again...it was disabled for a short period of time.
> >
> >     Yes, it's working now.
> >
> >     I'll let you know when I'm done with the clipboard "wizardry" and the
> >     occasional reformatting :)
> >
> >     Thanks!
> >     Laszlo
> >
> >     >> -----Original Message-----
> >     >> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org
> >     <mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org>] On Behalf Of Laszlo Ersek
> >     >> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:33 AM
> >     >> To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com <mailto:
> michael.d.kinney@intel.com>>
> >     >> Cc: edk2-devel-01 <edk2-devel@ml01.01.org <mailto:
> edk2-devel@ml01.01.org>>
> >     >> Subject: Re: [edk2] Tianocore Bugzilla Server is now live
> >     >>
> >     >> On 07/21/16 19:05, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
> >     >>> Laszlo,
> >     >>>
> >     >>> Yes.  We can hold off disabling GitHub.  Let us know when you
> are ready.
> >     >>
> >     >> Thank you! However, github is rejecting my new comments in the
> browser
> >     >> tabs that I have open already, and it rejects my fresh requests
> for
> >     >> issue URLs.
> >     >>
> >     >> Thanks,
> >     >> Laszlo
> >
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     edk2-devel mailing list
> >     edk2-devel@lists.01.org <mailto:edk2-devel@lists.01.org>
> >     https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Tianocore Bugzilla Server is now live

[Andrew Fish]

> On Aug 2, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Michael Zimmermann <sigmaepsilon92@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> How are security issues treated in UEFI anyway?

They follow the standard ethical disclosure process like then one discussed here: http://www.uefi.org/security

> Are they kept a secret forever or just for a specific time span?
> 

The ethical disclosure processes is followed and an timespan is picked that lets systems that are going to get updates get fixed. This is how things security work in general. 

> A reason for keeping them a secret forever(while pushing
> unsuspicious fixes) probably would be the fact that most UEFI systems don't
> get updated.
> 

No after some reasonable amount of time there will be disclosure to the public. The embargo of information is to let as many folks as possible get patches in place before the issue is public. 

Thanks,

Andrew Fish

> Thanks
> Michael
> 
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 08/02/16 21:10, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
>>> Michael,
>>> 
>>> I am open to suggestions on this topic.
>>> 
>>> If there is a strong opinion that we need to protect specific fields
>>> from being modified, then we can look into updating the configuration.
>>> 
>>> I think with Bugzilla change history and edk2-bugs mailing list, we can
>>> all see the changes to any issue, so even if someone does do an
>>> incorrect edit, I think we can put it back.
>> 
>> Does "editbugs" include changing the product from "Tianocore Security
>> Issues" to something else, possibly exposing the security issue to the
>> world?
>> 
>> Hm... It probably doesn't matter. If a security issue can be looked at
>> (which is a pre-requisite for the product field to be changed) by anyone
>> in the first place, then they can expose the contents to the world in
>> other ways too. :)
>> 
>> So I think trusting all registered accounts with "editbugs" is a good
>> starting point too.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Laszlo
>> 
>> 
>>> *From:*Michael Zimmermann [mailto:sigmaepsilon92@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 2, 2016 11:57 AM
>>> *To:* Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
>>> *Cc:* Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>; edk2-devel-01
>>> <edk2-devel@ml01.01.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [edk2] Tianocore Bugzilla Server is now live
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is it just my account or does everybody have the permission
>>> "editbugs      Can edit all bug fields"?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It sounds like this is something only moderators should be able to do.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 8:43 PM, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com
>>> <mailto:lersek@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    On 07/21/16 20:07, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
>>>> Laszlo,
>>>> 
>>>> Try again...it was disabled for a short period of time.
>>> 
>>>    Yes, it's working now.
>>> 
>>>    I'll let you know when I'm done with the clipboard "wizardry" and the
>>>    occasional reformatting :)
>>> 
>>>    Thanks!
>>>    Laszlo
>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org
>>>    <mailto:edk2-devel-bounces@lists.01.org>] On Behalf Of Laszlo Ersek
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:33 AM
>>>>> To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com <mailto:
>> michael.d.kinney@intel.com>>
>>>>> Cc: edk2-devel-01 <edk2-devel@ml01.01.org <mailto:
>> edk2-devel@ml01.01.org>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [edk2] Tianocore Bugzilla Server is now live
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 07/21/16 19:05, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
>>>>>> Laszlo,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes.  We can hold off disabling GitHub.  Let us know when you
>> are ready.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you! However, github is rejecting my new comments in the
>> browser
>>>>> tabs that I have open already, and it rejects my fresh requests
>> for
>>>>> issue URLs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Laszlo
>>> 
>>>    _______________________________________________
>>>    edk2-devel mailing list
>>>    edk2-devel@lists.01.org <mailto:edk2-devel@lists.01.org>
>>>    https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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