From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Rebecca Cran <rebecca@bluestop.org>,
stephano <stephano.cetola@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "edk2-devel@lists.01.org" <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>
Subject: Re: [edk2-announce] Mailing List Move Day Set: April 4th
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 13:07:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e0c218b3-3dd9-292d-feed-21ddc531b507@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2b88b658-a9f6-dfc0-7795-5b9df4a798bd@bluestop.org>
On 03/25/19 23:21, Rebecca Cran via edk2-devel wrote:
> On 3/25/19 10:21 AM, stephano wrote:
>>
>> This is a good point and shows the level of detail that is preserved
>> by the mailing list if maintained properly. I would assume this is
>> part of the reason that the Linux kernel has continued to use mailing
>> lists for patch review as this level of detail is highly desired in
>> their case.
>
>
> Talking of such things, I noticed a couple weeks ago that the Gmane link
> at https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel doesn't work .
Indeed, we should now replace that link with:
- https://www.mail-archive.com/edk2-devel@lists.01.org/info.html
- https://www.mail-archive.com/edk2-devel@lists.01.org/
as the "alternative archive".
(OTOH, it may be simpler to just wait until we move to gropus.io).
> From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmane :
>
> "In July 2016, Ingebrigtsen announced that he was considering shutting
> Gmane down, and the web interface was taken offline.^[2]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmane#cite_note-2> ^[3]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmane#cite_note-3> In August 2016 Gmane
> was acquired by Yomura Holdings. Only the message spool was transferred,
> with the software behind the site having to be redeveloped.^[4]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmane#cite_note-4> ^[5]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmane#cite_note-5> On the 6 September
> 2016, it was announced that the Gmane web interface would be coming
> online again.^[6] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmane#cite_note-6>
> However, by February 2018 a LWN.net
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LWN.net> article observed that the web
> interface did "never [...] return, breaking thousands of links across
> the net. The front page still says 'some things are very broken' and
> links to a blog page that was last updated in September 2016."^[7]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmane#cite_note-7>"
The downfall of GMANE was nothing short of a catastrophe, for open source.
(It was also what taught me to capture Message-ID-based links to
archived messages. Message-IDs outlive websites.)
Thanks
Laszlo
prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-03-26 12:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-03-23 0:41 [edk2-announce] Mailing List Move Day Set: April 4th stephano
2019-03-25 12:51 ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-03-25 16:21 ` stephano
2019-03-25 22:21 ` Rebecca Cran
2019-03-26 12:07 ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
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