From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received-SPF: Pass (sender SPF authorized) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.132.183.28; helo=mx1.redhat.com; envelope-from=lersek@redhat.com; receiver=edk2-devel@lists.01.org Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ml01.01.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C70B9211D9155 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 05:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx08.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CD582D7EB; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 12:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lacos-laptop-7.usersys.redhat.com (ovpn-120-132.rdu2.redhat.com [10.10.120.132]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DA726DF3; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 12:07:27 +0000 (UTC) To: Rebecca Cran , stephano Cc: "edk2-devel@lists.01.org" References: <520cc50a-bb52-d24e-4c73-eb8cd8b0a312@linux.intel.com> <2b88b658-a9f6-dfc0-7795-5b9df4a798bd@bluestop.org> From: Laszlo Ersek Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 13:07:26 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2b88b658-a9f6-dfc0-7795-5b9df4a798bd@bluestop.org> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.23 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.30]); Tue, 26 Mar 2019 12:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [edk2-announce] Mailing List Move Day Set: April 4th X-BeenThere: edk2-devel@lists.01.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: EDK II Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 12:07:29 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 03/25/19 23:21, Rebecca Cran via edk2-devel wrote: > On 3/25/19 10:21 AM, stephano wrote: >> >> This is a good point and shows the level of detail that is preserved >> by the mailing list if maintained properly. I would assume this is >> part of the reason that the Linux kernel has continued to use mailing >> lists for patch review as this level of detail is highly desired in >> their case. > > > Talking of such things, I noticed a couple weeks ago that the Gmane link > at https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel doesn't work . Indeed, we should now replace that link with: - https://www.mail-archive.com/edk2-devel@lists.01.org/info.html - https://www.mail-archive.com/edk2-devel@lists.01.org/ as the "alternative archive". (OTOH, it may be simpler to just wait until we move to gropus.io). > From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmane : > > "In July 2016, Ingebrigtsen announced that he was considering shutting > Gmane down, and the web interface was taken offline.^[2] > ^[3] > In August 2016 Gmane > was acquired by Yomura Holdings. Only the message spool was transferred, > with the software behind the site having to be redeveloped.^[4] > ^[5] > On the 6 September > 2016, it was announced that the Gmane web interface would be coming > online again.^[6] > However, by February 2018 a LWN.net > article observed that the web > interface did "never [...] return, breaking thousands of links across > the net. The front page still says 'some things are very broken' and > links to a blog page that was last updated in September 2016."^[7] > " The downfall of GMANE was nothing short of a catastrophe, for open source. (It was also what taught me to capture Message-ID-based links to archived messages. Message-IDs outlive websites.) Thanks Laszlo