Re: ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel mailing list configuration changes

["Brian J. Johnson" <brian.johnson@hpe.com>]

I'm using Thunderbird 60.2.1 on Linux.  If I respond to Leif's message 
(the one quoted below) with the "reply" button, it's addressed only to 
him.  If I use "reply all", it goes to him, the list, and all other 
recipients of the original message.  (That's what I did on this 
response.)  If I use "reply to mailing list", it goes only to the list.

So exactly what I'd expect.  No issues here.

Brian

On 10/30/18 3:49 AM, Leif Lindholm wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> 
> That resolves the issue at my end, thanks!. But it would be good to
> know how it works for others (does Intel have a default mail client
> config, and could someone else verify the behaviour is how you would
> normally expect?).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Leif
> 
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:40:06PM +0000, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
>> Hi Leif,
>>
>> I can put the reply_goes_to_list option back to "Poster".
>>
>> In that configuration, a user that has a DMARC policy of
>> reject will still have their from address munged.
>>
>> But I noticed that the edk2-devel mailing list is not
>> present when anyone does a Reply-all to an email with
>> a munged from address.  That implied to me that everyone
>> would need to check if the edk2-devel mailing has been
>> removed from a Reply-all and add it back manually.  This
>> also seems like a non-ideal configuration option.
>>
>> However, the behavior I am seeing could be due to some
>> of my client settings.
>>
>> So I will put the reply_goes_to_list option back to
>> "Poster".
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Leif Lindholm [mailto:leif.lindholm@linaro.org]
>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 2:10 PM
>>> To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
>>> Cc: EDK II Development <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>;
>>> Cetola, Stephano <stephano.cetola@intel.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [edk2] ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel mailing list
>>> configuration changes
>>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I could hypothesise about which email client you may be
>>> using :)
>>>
>>> But let me instead mention that the two email clients I
>>> have (mutt and
>>> gmail web interface) behave identically - neither adds
>>> the original
>>> sender to cc when the list server forces a reply-to
>>> header.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Leif
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 08:49:09PM +0000, Kinney,
>>> Michael D wrote:
>>>> Leif,
>>>>
>>>> Very strange.  When I do the same on that email, it
>>>> shows Paul on the To address line.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Leif Lindholm
>>> [mailto:leif.lindholm@linaro.org]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 1:40 PM
>>>>> To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
>>>>> Cc: EDK II Development <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>;
>>>>> Cetola, Stephano <stephano.cetola@intel.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [edk2] ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel mailing
>>> list
>>>>> configuration changes
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>> When I try to "reply-to", the email from Paul A
>>> Lohr,
>>>>> sent 10 minutes
>>>>> after your one below, he does not show up in either
>>> "to"
>>>>> or "cc".
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, I missed the excitement during the plugfest.
>>> I'll go
>>>>> back and see
>>>>> what I can find there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Leif
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 08:23:43PM +0000, Kinney,
>>>>> Michael D wrote:
>>>>>> Leif,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have enabled a different configuration setting
>>>>>> that should be better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please try some emails and let me know if there
>>>>>> are any impacts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The reason for these changes is the DMARC related
>>>>>> issue that occurred on 10-19-2018 that required a
>>>>>> number of users to be disabled.  The goal of these
>>>>>> changes is to enable those users to be re-
>>> activated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Leif Lindholm
>>>>> [mailto:leif.lindholm@linaro.org]
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 12:54 PM
>>>>>>> To: EDK II Development <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Kinney, Michael D
>>> <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>;
>>>>>>> Cetola, Stephano <stephano.cetola@intel.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [edk2] ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel
>>> mailing
>>>>> list
>>>>>>> configuration changes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 06:42:44PM +0000,
>>> Kinney,
>>>>>>> Michael D wrote:
>>>>>>>> Some configuration changes have been made to
>>>>>>>> the edk2-devel mailing list to handle posts
>>> from
>>>>>>>> a domain with a DMARC Reject/Quarantine policy
>>>>>>>> enabled. If this is detected then the from
>>> address
>>>>>>>> is now munged.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One side effect of this setting is that the
>>>>>>>> behavior of Reply has changed.  Instead of
>>> being
>>>>>>>> a reply to the poster of the message, the
>>> Reply
>>>>>>>> address is the edk2-devel mailing list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The behaviour looks somewhat broken, since as
>>> far as
>>>>> I
>>>>>>> can tell,
>>>>>>> replies now longer include the person you're
>>>>> replying
>>>>>>> to.
>>>>>>> (This doesn't happen when replying specifically
>>> to
>>>>>>> _you_, because you
>>>>>>> cc yourself on everything).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you wish to send a private reply to only
>>> the
>>>>>>>> poster of the message, you may have to perform
>>>>>>>> some manual steps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please let me know if you have any concerns
>>> about
>>>>>>>> these changes or if these configuration
>>> changes
>>>>>>>> cause any other side effects.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can we make sure the person being replied to is
>>> at
>>>>> least
>>>>>>> on cc?
>>>>>>> Otherwise, we've just broken the workflow for
>>> anyone
>>>>>>> filtering on
>>>>>>> whether they are on "to" or "cc".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why was this change necessary?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leif
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