From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received-SPF: None (no SPF record) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=15.241.48.73; helo=g9t5009.houston.hpe.com; envelope-from=brian.johnson@hpe.com; receiver=edk2-devel@lists.01.org Received: from g9t5009.houston.hpe.com (g9t5009.houston.hpe.com [15.241.48.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ml01.01.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E271A21183EEA for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 07:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from g4t3433.houston.hpecorp.net (g4t3433.houston.hpecorp.net [16.208.49.245]) by g9t5009.houston.hpe.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7D055; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:58:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.33.152.19] (bjj-laptop1.americas.hpqcorp.net [10.33.152.19]) by g4t3433.houston.hpecorp.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585F847; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:58:25 +0000 (UTC) To: Leif Lindholm , "Kinney, Michael D" Cc: EDK II Development , "Cetola, Stephano" References: <20181029195415.t63zjpz6byuveqne@bivouac.eciton.net> <20181029204016.yeweqvts2cnsbulz@bivouac.eciton.net> <20181029211003.4sz5vwzvldveiev5@bivouac.eciton.net> <20181030084957.yj5i66vczfu2cs5y@bivouac.eciton.net> From: "Brian J. Johnson" Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:58:24 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181030084957.yj5i66vczfu2cs5y@bivouac.eciton.net> Subject: Re: ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel mailing list configuration changes X-BeenThere: edk2-devel@lists.01.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: EDK II Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:58:27 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using Thunderbird 60.2.1 on Linux. If I respond to Leif's message (the one quoted below) with the "reply" button, it's addressed only to him. If I use "reply all", it goes to him, the list, and all other recipients of the original message. (That's what I did on this response.) If I use "reply to mailing list", it goes only to the list. So exactly what I'd expect. No issues here. Brian On 10/30/18 3:49 AM, Leif Lindholm wrote: > Hi Mike, > > That resolves the issue at my end, thanks!. But it would be good to > know how it works for others (does Intel have a default mail client > config, and could someone else verify the behaviour is how you would > normally expect?). > > Regards, > > Leif > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:40:06PM +0000, Kinney, Michael D wrote: >> Hi Leif, >> >> I can put the reply_goes_to_list option back to "Poster". >> >> In that configuration, a user that has a DMARC policy of >> reject will still have their from address munged. >> >> But I noticed that the edk2-devel mailing list is not >> present when anyone does a Reply-all to an email with >> a munged from address. That implied to me that everyone >> would need to check if the edk2-devel mailing has been >> removed from a Reply-all and add it back manually. This >> also seems like a non-ideal configuration option. >> >> However, the behavior I am seeing could be due to some >> of my client settings. >> >> So I will put the reply_goes_to_list option back to >> "Poster". >> >> Mike >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Leif Lindholm [mailto:leif.lindholm@linaro.org] >>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 2:10 PM >>> To: Kinney, Michael D >>> Cc: EDK II Development ; >>> Cetola, Stephano >>> Subject: Re: [edk2] ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel mailing list >>> configuration changes >>> >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>> I could hypothesise about which email client you may be >>> using :) >>> >>> But let me instead mention that the two email clients I >>> have (mutt and >>> gmail web interface) behave identically - neither adds >>> the original >>> sender to cc when the list server forces a reply-to >>> header. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Leif >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 08:49:09PM +0000, Kinney, >>> Michael D wrote: >>>> Leif, >>>> >>>> Very strange. When I do the same on that email, it >>>> shows Paul on the To address line. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Leif Lindholm >>> [mailto:leif.lindholm@linaro.org] >>>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 1:40 PM >>>>> To: Kinney, Michael D >>>>> Cc: EDK II Development ; >>>>> Cetola, Stephano >>>>> Subject: Re: [edk2] ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel mailing >>> list >>>>> configuration changes >>>>> >>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>> >>>>> When I try to "reply-to", the email from Paul A >>> Lohr, >>>>> sent 10 minutes >>>>> after your one below, he does not show up in either >>> "to" >>>>> or "cc". >>>>> >>>>> OK, I missed the excitement during the plugfest. >>> I'll go >>>>> back and see >>>>> what I can find there. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Leif >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 08:23:43PM +0000, Kinney, >>>>> Michael D wrote: >>>>>> Leif, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have enabled a different configuration setting >>>>>> that should be better. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please try some emails and let me know if there >>>>>> are any impacts. >>>>>> >>>>>> The reason for these changes is the DMARC related >>>>>> issue that occurred on 10-19-2018 that required a >>>>>> number of users to be disabled. The goal of these >>>>>> changes is to enable those users to be re- >>> activated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Leif Lindholm >>>>> [mailto:leif.lindholm@linaro.org] >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 12:54 PM >>>>>>> To: EDK II Development >>>>>>> Cc: Kinney, Michael D >>> ; >>>>>>> Cetola, Stephano >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [edk2] ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel >>> mailing >>>>> list >>>>>>> configuration changes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 06:42:44PM +0000, >>> Kinney, >>>>>>> Michael D wrote: >>>>>>>> Some configuration changes have been made to >>>>>>>> the edk2-devel mailing list to handle posts >>> from >>>>>>>> a domain with a DMARC Reject/Quarantine policy >>>>>>>> enabled. If this is detected then the from >>> address >>>>>>>> is now munged. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One side effect of this setting is that the >>>>>>>> behavior of Reply has changed. Instead of >>> being >>>>>>>> a reply to the poster of the message, the >>> Reply >>>>>>>> address is the edk2-devel mailing list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The behaviour looks somewhat broken, since as >>> far as >>>>> I >>>>>>> can tell, >>>>>>> replies now longer include the person you're >>>>> replying >>>>>>> to. >>>>>>> (This doesn't happen when replying specifically >>> to >>>>>>> _you_, because you >>>>>>> cc yourself on everything). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you wish to send a private reply to only >>> the >>>>>>>> poster of the message, you may have to perform >>>>>>>> some manual steps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please let me know if you have any concerns >>> about >>>>>>>> these changes or if these configuration >>> changes >>>>>>>> cause any other side effects. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can we make sure the person being replied to is >>> at >>>>> least >>>>>>> on cc? >>>>>>> Otherwise, we've just broken the workflow for >>> anyone >>>>>>> filtering on >>>>>>> whether they are on "to" or "cc". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why was this change necessary? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Leif > _______________________________________________ > edk2-devel mailing list > edk2-devel@lists.01.org > https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel > -- Brian J. Johnson Enterprise X86 Lab Hewlett Packard Enterprise brian.johnson@hpe.com