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From: "Laszlo Ersek" <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>
Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io, michael.d.kinney@intel.com,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	"Wang, Jian J" <jian.j.wang@intel.com>,
	"Ye, Ting" <ting.ye@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 0/4] Arm, ArmPlatform, Crypto, Embedded: list internal headers in [Sources]
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:02:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ef865c23-e266-32fb-6341-b37308373f53@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190723121940.GH11541@bivouac.eciton.net>

On 07/23/19 14:19, Leif Lindholm wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 01:54:54PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>>>> I wasn't annoyed at the feature itself -- if it helps developers catch
>>>> unlisted headers as soon as incomplete INF files are introduced, then
>>>> it's not a bad feature IMO.
>>>
>>> I agree that the optional nature of whether to list local .h files or
>>> not in the .inf was suboptimal.
>>
>> Hmm, has that ever been officially optional?
>>
>> (The INF spec chapter at
>> <https://edk2-docs.gitbooks.io/edk-ii-inf-specification/content/2_inf_overview/25_[sources]_section.html>
>> doesn't seem to mention header files at all. Thus, I can imagine both
>> "mandatory to list headers" by omission, and "optional to list headers"
>> by omission...)
> 
> Yeah, indeed.
> 
>>> I am just not pleased with the issue
>>> bringing this to the fore is caused by the new caching feature using a
>>> different mechanism for tracking header file dependencies than the
>>> primary build process.
>>
>> Ugh... that's a lot of statements compressed into a single sentence. Can
>> you please break it down for me? (Yes, I remember the mailing list
>> reference you posted earlier, that discussion was too divergent for me.)
> 
> The inclusion of .h files in .inf is not necessary for determining
> build-time dependencies on the Makefile level.
> 
> Thus, the warnings come out of a different and unrelated level of the
> build system, related to the recent build cache features. Which means
> we're checking header file build dependencies through two different
> mechanisms at two different points of the build.

OK, thanks. Now I understand your point. It hasn't been clear to me that
listing the module-internal headers isn't actually necessary for getting
the build dependencies right.

> Or I have fundamentally misunderstood what is going on. Which is also
> possible. In which case we're maintaining our own header file
> dependency tracking infrastructure, despite us in the end relying on
> generating Makefiles. Which also feels less than ideal.

Right.

Thanks
Laszlo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-07-23 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-19 16:43 [PATCH 0/4] Arm, ArmPlatform, Crypto, Embedded: list internal headers in [Sources] Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-19 16:43 ` [PATCH 1/4] ArmPkg: list module-internal header files in INF [Sources] Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-19 16:43 ` [PATCH 2/4] ArmPlatformPkg: " Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-19 17:13   ` [edk2-devel] " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-07-19 16:43 ` [PATCH 3/4] CryptoPkg/BaseCryptLib: " Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-19 17:09   ` [edk2-devel] " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-07-22  5:48   ` Wang, Jian J
2019-07-19 16:43 ` [PATCH 4/4] EmbeddedPkg: " Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-19 17:08   ` [edk2-devel] " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-07-22 10:37 ` [PATCH 0/4] Arm, ArmPlatform, Crypto, Embedded: list internal headers in [Sources] Leif Lindholm
2019-07-22 17:32   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-22 18:47     ` [edk2-devel] " Michael D Kinney
2019-07-22 22:56       ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-23  9:06         ` Leif Lindholm
2019-07-23 11:54           ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-23 12:19             ` Leif Lindholm
2019-07-23 13:02               ` Liming Gao
2019-07-23 13:25                 ` Leif Lindholm
2019-07-23 17:23                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-24 15:17                   ` Liming Gao
2019-07-24 17:00                     ` Leif Lindholm
2019-07-25 19:27                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-07-23 17:02               ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2019-07-22 22:30 ` Laszlo Ersek

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