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From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: "Zeng, Star" <star.zeng@intel.com>,
	"Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	edk2-devel-01 <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>,
	"Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
	Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/12] ArmPkg: introduce EDKII Platform Has ACPI Protocol, and plug-in library
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 19:00:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f14caedc-7fac-4874-0b46-6e6a22366869@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1f0f0141-b367-fbe9-8190-9c99671937d8@redhat.com>

On 03/21/17 10:02, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 03/21/17 09:43, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>> On 21 March 2017 at 07:10, Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> wrote:
>>> On 21 March 2017 at 02:27, Zeng, Star <star.zeng@intel.com> wrote:
>>>> Just an idea.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I like it!
>>>
>>>> There is a way to do not introduce a new PCD, but reuse PcdAcpiExposedTableVersions.
>>>> When PcdAcpiExposedTableVersions is configured to *0* (means no ANY ACPI table should be exposed), AcpiTableDxe returns EFI_UNSUPPORTED in the driver entrypoint.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So could we then upgrade the definition so it is possible to use a
>>> dynamic PCD for this?
>>>
>>
>> Oh, and how is the ordering ensured in this case? We need to set the
>> dynamic PCD at runtime, but obviously before AcpiTableDxe gets a
>> chance to load. If the only way to achieve this is another NULL class
>> library, then this is not much of an improvement.
> 
> I've been silently waiting for this to get noticed :)
> 
> In the ArmVirtQemu case, the PCD value would be set from fw_cfg. But in
> ArmVirtQemu, fw_cfg is not available in PEI, only in DXE, so yes, a NULL
> class library would be needed.
> 
> In physical firmware (also in the planned "showcase QEMU" case), the
> toggle would be exposed by another DXE driver (a platform driver) using
> an HII form. Generally such a driver translates an nvvar to a PcdSet in
> its entry point, plus registers HII stuff that allows the nvvar to be
> toggled interactively in the setup browser, for the next boot. Either
> way, the PcdSet would again only happen in DXE.
> 
>> Or could we detect
>> the table-loader node from PEI as well?
> 
> Not at the moment; fw_cfg is currently not available in PEI, in ArmVirtQemu.
> 
> ArmVirtQemu's PEI phase executes in-place from pflash. That means no
> writeable global variables (unless you make a PEIM, or the PEI library
> instance, dependent on the "memory discovered" PPI). Even using just the
> MMIO (no DMA) interface to fw_cfg, you'd have to parse the DTB on every
> invocation. (No writeable global variables imply you can't pre-parse the
> stuff in the library constructor.)
> 
> A similar example is
> "ArmVirtPkg/Library/FdtPL011SerialPortLib/EarlyFdtPL011SerialPortLib.c",
> where each serial port write has to re-parse the base address from the DT.
> 
> (OVMF is different because OVMF's PEI runs from memory.)
> 
> So, whatever you saved on the PcdSet ordering in the DXE phase, you
> would triply lose in fw_cfg complexity in PEI. A new PEI library
> instance would be necessary for fw_cfg, which would either have to parse
> the DT on each invocation, or else depend on permanent PEI RAM
> availability (which would be the same (or worse) kind of ordering
> restriction that you're trying to avoid in DXE in the first place).

So... does that make this patch set (relatively) less "unwieldy" to you?

Thanks,
Laszlo


  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-21 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-17 20:47 [PATCH v2 00/12] ArmVirtPkg: don't forward the DT to the OS if QEMU provides ACPI Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] Revert "ArmVirtPkg/FdtClientDxe: make DT table installation !ACPI dependent" Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-22 14:12   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] Revert "ArmVirtPkg/FdtClientDxe: install DT configuration table at ReadyToBoot" Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-22 14:12   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] MdeModulePkg/RamDiskDxe: fix C string literal catenation in info messages Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-20  2:16   ` Zeng, Star
2017-03-20  2:26     ` Tian, Feng
2017-03-20  2:34       ` Wu, Hao A
2017-03-20  9:46     ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-20  9:57       ` Zeng, Star
2017-03-20 10:10         ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] ArmVirtPkg/XenAcpiPlatformDxe: don't cast UINT64 to pointer directly Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-22 14:13   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] ArmPkg: introduce EDKII Platform Has ACPI Protocol, and plug-in library Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-18 15:00   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-03-20  9:01     ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-20 11:59       ` Leif Lindholm
2017-03-22 15:01     ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-23  1:41       ` Zeng, Star
2017-03-23  9:09         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-24  3:44           ` Zeng, Star
2017-03-24  7:15             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-24 17:10               ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-24 17:11                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-24 17:09             ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-27  2:42               ` Gao, Liming
2017-03-27  7:00                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-27 17:31                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-27 17:45                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-28  5:25                     ` Gao, Liming
2017-03-28  7:49                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-29  9:49                         ` Gao, Liming
2017-03-29 13:03                           ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-20  2:23   ` Zeng, Star
2017-03-20  9:17     ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-20  9:57       ` Zeng, Star
2017-03-21  2:27         ` Zeng, Star
2017-03-21  7:10           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-21  8:43             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-21  9:02               ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-21 18:00                 ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2017-03-22 14:12                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-21  8:37           ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-21  8:41             ` Zeng, Star
2017-03-21  9:05               ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-22 16:45   ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] ArmPkg: introduce EDKII Platform Has Device Tree Protocol Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-18 15:06   ` Leif Lindholm
2017-03-20  9:03     ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] ArmVirtPkg: add PlatformHasAcpiDtDxe Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-22 14:14   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] ArmVirtPkg: add XenPlatformHasAcpiDtDxe Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-22 14:15   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] ArmVirtPkg: enable AcpiTableDxe and EFI_ACPI_TABLE_PROTOCOL dynamically Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-22 14:16   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-22 14:54     ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-22 15:05       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] ArmVirtPkg/FdtClientDxe: install DT as sysconfig table in protocol notify Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-22 14:18   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] ArmVirtPkg/PlatformHasAcpiDtDxe: don't expose DT if QEMU provides ACPI Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-17 21:10   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-17 21:25     ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-17 21:27       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-22 14:18   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-17 20:47 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] ArmVirtPkg: remove PURE_ACPI_BOOT_ENABLE and PcdPureAcpiBoot Laszlo Ersek
2017-03-22 14:19   ` Ard Biesheuvel

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