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From: "Rebecca Cran" <rebecca@bsdio.com>
To: "Kinney, Michael D" <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>,
	Pedro Falcato <pedro.falcato@gmail.com>
Cc: "devel@edk2.groups.io" <devel@edk2.groups.io>,
	Leif Lindholm <quic_llindhol@quicinc.com>,
	"Gao, Liming" <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>,
	Oliver Smith-Denny <osd@smith-denny.com>,
	"Jiang, Guomin" <guomin.jiang@intel.com>,
	"Lu, Xiaoyu1" <xiaoyu1.lu@intel.com>,
	"Wang, Jian J" <jian.j.wang@intel.com>,
	"Yao, Jiewen" <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>,
	"Justen, Jordan L" <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Feng, Bob C" <bob.c.feng@intel.com>,
	Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>
Subject: Re: 回复: 回复: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 00/13] BaseTools,CryptoPkg,MdePkg,OvmfPkg: Delete CLANG35,CLANG38,GCC48,GCC49, rename GCC5 to GCC, update CLANGDWARF, delete VS 2008-2013, EBC
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 12:36:27 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f265b852-c875-ff0a-8473-9f1755752cce@bsdio.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CO1PR11MB49290D4DC99611996EF878B7D2939@CO1PR11MB4929.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Thanks, deprecating it for a while makes a lot of sense. We can consider 
removing it in 6-12 months maybe?


-- 

Rebecca Cran


On 4/4/2023 12:29 PM, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
> Add GCC and leave GCC5 for now and give time for all downstream
> consumers to accommodate the name change.
>
> At a later date, remove GCC5.
>
> We have seen significant downstream issues on name changes in the
> past.  Splitting into 2 different patch series allows downstream
> to merge in the change that adds the new name.  Give time to update
> all dependencies to use the new name, and then at a later date
> remove the old name.
>
> This is a common practice to announce deprecation and support
> new and old for a period of time.
>
> Mike
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rebecca Cran <rebecca@bsdio.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 11:04 AM
>> To: Pedro Falcato <pedro.falcato@gmail.com>; Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kinney@intel.com>
>> Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io; Leif Lindholm <quic_llindhol@quicinc.com>; Gao, Liming <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>; Oliver Smith-
>> Denny <osd@smith-denny.com>; Jiang, Guomin <guomin.jiang@intel.com>; Lu, Xiaoyu1 <xiaoyu1.lu@intel.com>; Wang, Jian J
>> <jian.j.wang@intel.com>; Yao, Jiewen <jiewen.yao@intel.com>; Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+tianocore@kernel.org>; Justen, Jordan L
>> <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>; Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>; Feng, Bob C <bob.c.feng@intel.com>; Andrew Fish
>> <afish@apple.com>
>> Subject: Re: 回复: 回复: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 00/13] BaseTools,CryptoPkg,MdePkg,OvmfPkg: Delete
>> CLANG35,CLANG38,GCC48,GCC49, rename GCC5 to GCC, update CLANGDWARF, delete VS 2008-2013, EBC
>>
>>
>> On 4/4/23 11:57 AM, Pedro Falcato wrote:
>>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 6:52 PM Kinney, Michael D
>>> <michael.d.kinney@intel.com> wrote:
>>>> I see value in adding a new name.
>>>>
>>>> I see no value in a non-backwards compatible change to delete/rename a fully supported one.
>>> As Leif said, you reduce all sorts of possible confusion.
>>>
>>> VS2013 builds only for Visual Studio 2013 tools, VS2017 does the same
>>> for 2017, GCC5 meanwhile builds on anything from (probably GCC 4.x,
>>> since LTO, 2011) to GCC 13 (to be released soon, 2023).
>>>
>>> Surely downstreams can adapt to *this one cosmetic change* that
>>> changes no behavior.
>> Nope, GCC5 currently only builds on GCC _6_ and newer, since we don't
>> specify -std=c++11. Which makes this discussion even more ridiculous IMO.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rebecca Cran

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-04 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-28 17:30 [PATCH v2 00/13] BaseTools,CryptoPkg,MdePkg,OvmfPkg: Delete CLANG35,CLANG38,GCC48,GCC49, rename GCC5 to GCC, update CLANGDWARF, delete VS 2008-2013, EBC Rebecca Cran
2023-03-28 17:30 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] OvmfPkg: Replace static struct initialization with ZeroMem call Rebecca Cran
2023-03-28 22:40   ` Yao, Jiewen
2023-03-28 22:45     ` Michael D Kinney
2023-03-28 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] CryptoPkg: Add CLANGDWARF and remove CLANG35 and CLANG38 compiler flags Rebecca Cran
2023-03-28 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] BaseTools: Update CLANGDWARF toolchain and remove CLANG35 and CLANG38 Rebecca Cran
2023-03-29  3:46   ` [edk2-devel] " Guo, Gua
     [not found]   ` <1750C725F99FA0C2.29160@groups.io>
2023-03-29  9:24     ` Guo, Gua
2023-03-28 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] BaseTools: Remove VS2008, 2010, 2012 and 2013 toolchain definitions Rebecca Cran
2023-03-28 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] BaseTools: Remove VS2008-VS2013 remnants Rebecca Cran
2023-03-28 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] MdePkg: " Rebecca Cran
2023-03-28 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] edksetup.bat: " Rebecca Cran
2023-03-28 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] BaseTools: Remove unused IPHONE_TOOLS and SOURCERY_CYGWIN_TOOLS defs Rebecca Cran
2023-03-28 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] BaseTools: Remove EBC (EFI Byte Code) compiler definitions Rebecca Cran
2023-03-28 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] OvmfPkg: Use Xcode5 version of CpuExceptionHandlerLib for CLANGDWARF Rebecca Cran
2023-03-28 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] Delete GCC48 and GCC49 toolchains and rename GCC5 to GCC Rebecca Cran
2023-03-28 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] BaseTools: Remove unused CYGWIN_ defines from tools_def.txt.template Rebecca Cran
2023-03-28 17:31 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] Bump tools_def.txt VERSION to 3.0 Rebecca Cran
2023-03-28 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] BaseTools,CryptoPkg,MdePkg,OvmfPkg: Delete CLANG35,CLANG38,GCC48,GCC49, rename GCC5 to GCC, update CLANGDWARF, delete VS 2008-2013, EBC Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-28 18:01   ` Rebecca Cran
2023-03-28 18:12     ` [edk2-devel] " Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-29 10:21       ` Rebecca Cran
2023-03-29 10:30         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-29  1:19 ` 回复: " gaoliming
2023-03-29  7:39   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-03-29 10:20     ` Rebecca Cran
2023-03-29 11:28     ` Leif Lindholm
2023-03-29 11:53       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-02 15:41   ` 回复: " Rebecca Cran
2023-04-02 16:36     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-02 16:42       ` Michael D Kinney
2023-04-02 18:38     ` Pedro Falcato
2023-04-02 21:50       ` Rebecca Cran
2023-04-03 11:30         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-03 11:33           ` Rebecca Cran
2023-04-03 11:39             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-03 11:55               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-03 12:15                 ` Leif Lindholm
2023-04-03 12:26                   ` Rebecca Cran
2023-04-03 13:44                     ` Pedro Falcato
2023-04-03 13:54                       ` Rebecca Cran
2023-04-03 14:08                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-04-03 14:27                       ` Rebecca Cran
2023-04-03 19:42                         ` Michael D Kinney
2023-04-03 19:54                           ` Rebecca Cran
2023-04-03 20:23                             ` Michael D Kinney
2023-04-03 13:04                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-03 13:27                     ` Michael D Kinney
2023-04-03 13:43                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-04  1:31         ` 回复: " gaoliming
2023-04-04 15:49           ` Rebecca Cran
2023-04-04 15:57             ` Pedro Falcato
2023-04-04 16:32               ` Leif Lindholm
2023-04-04 17:00                 ` Rebecca Cran
2023-04-04 17:45                   ` Michael D Kinney
2023-04-04 17:48                     ` Rebecca Cran
2023-04-04 17:52                       ` Michael D Kinney
2023-04-04 17:57                         ` Pedro Falcato
2023-04-04 18:03                           ` Rebecca Cran
2023-04-04 18:26                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-04 18:29                             ` Michael D Kinney
2023-04-04 18:36                               ` Rebecca Cran [this message]
2023-04-05 10:21                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-06  0:57                                   ` 回复: " gaoliming
2023-04-06  2:49                                     ` Rebecca Cran
2023-04-06  7:32                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-04-06  9:19                               ` Marcin Juszkiewicz
2023-03-29 12:20 ` Ard Biesheuvel

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