From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx.groups.io with SMTP id smtpd.web10.110264.1680633389165466847 for ; Tue, 04 Apr 2023 11:36:29 -0700 Authentication-Results: mx.groups.io; dkim=fail reason="signature has expired" header.i=@bsdio.com header.s=fm3 header.b=F5GYhCPe; spf=pass (domain: bsdio.com, ip: 66.111.4.28, mailfrom: rebecca@bsdio.com) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FD85C0223; Tue, 4 Apr 2023 14:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 04 Apr 2023 14:36:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdio.com; h=cc :cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:date :date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; t= 1680633388; x=1680719788; bh=GNiSEk2Vzv5nik4aZdUp9AVnR8JBa5WXKtI b7GBAaBo=; b=F5GYhCPesSFi4ZXaq68FkYVVFMwa9hef7Uv6213lcFT5H1gvV3T Ov7Wms5f0Q6XOUPIA8s+KIPFuSSxrqsuPP9EuPwS9pY+ynECZOJmA8uoHzEL1Q8G hc+9+um3TRMAzmWGeifm8ENgo9tnEyVj3VH8ZXilfTfXHDSu9XEb47E6Xu6563tO oGG4sC+I5iEDddAaZTFvofJsQWcwSysYGYe93wrasCgiIA25KX6bkc+fKZkF0Ubl Pd6a5FibGiL1MjMsiaJlSZJ44wTsj3ZS8fbpOJw3P1Go252MF5R8edUViBiEOB63 x6vnRF12r1G2clIETu2xYe7eWQgn2eJW+ow== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t= 1680633388; x=1680719788; bh=GNiSEk2Vzv5nik4aZdUp9AVnR8JBa5WXKtI b7GBAaBo=; b=oQlVLwjNgLOm3h1zAx08U5UJ8V5oicVwfwTOtfRqZSieM/IHddX yWfW1cjXFRKgxeTbZ/5PtsRNHhVERQOht7FYJH8kbM9eCIt4JzT7Xj7qSvIEJ9o0 56jL344Esm1NYzW631dwP2dVcINTNK9hqRp0CwNXQgUXGXzI3HJsZ53VMjFa7UBa 6fWJVW43wvTjHSQV69qmwPgwkPm156oYmNEUO+6GSJpaqqjs5fw+VDsduInwwTBX 0gj/QL4JcRGlwdyOmE065behHOHVAVSk45epdKv7QXnHWl+p3XH1ZoKtbT+dq9ou CwanRZp11QPERKSCkIo1Cb3ElZOh1804irg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrvdeiledguddvjecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd enucfjughrpefkffggfgfuvfevfhfhjggtgfesthekredttdefjeenucfhrhhomheptfgv sggvtggtrgcuvehrrghnuceorhgvsggvtggtrgessghsughiohdrtghomheqnecuggftrf grthhtvghrnhepgeefgeevudehjefgudfffefhheelheeigffhtedvjedvlefhueekhffh vdegheevnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomh eprhgvsggvtggtrgessghsughiohdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i5b994698:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 4 Apr 2023 14:36:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 12:36:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.9.1 Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IOWbnuWkjTog5Zue5aSNOiBbZWRrMi1kZXZlbF0gW1BBVENIIHYyIDAwLzEzXSBCYXNlVG9vbHMsQ3J5cHRvUGtnLE1kZVBrZyxPdm1mUGtnOiBEZWxldGUgQ0xBTkczNSxDTEFORzM4LEdDQzQ4LEdDQzQ5LCByZW5hbWUgR0NDNSB0byBHQ0MsIHVwZGF0ZSBDTEFOR0RXQVJGLCBkZWxldGUgVlMgMjAwOC0yMDEzLCBFQkM=?= To: "Kinney, Michael D" , Pedro Falcato Cc: "devel@edk2.groups.io" , Leif Lindholm , "Gao, Liming" , Oliver Smith-Denny , "Jiang, Guomin" , "Lu, Xiaoyu1" , "Wang, Jian J" , "Yao, Jiewen" , Ard Biesheuvel , "Justen, Jordan L" , Gerd Hoffmann , "Feng, Bob C" , Andrew Fish References: <20230328173111.759017-1-rebecca@bsdio.com> <02fb01d961dc$88d6acd0$9a840670$@byosoft.com.cn> <92a85636-3875-fd4d-06ff-dab9670370a5@bsdio.com> <000201d96695$331dede0$9959c9a0$@byosoft.com.cn> <61cc40d6-c2b2-5c56-aa3d-f06a4ee11cd3@bsdio.com> <2a83219e-0518-6929-3be2-9b250b9a9b06@bsdio.com> From: "Rebecca Cran" In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks, deprecating it for a while makes a lot of sense. We can consider removing it in 6-12 months maybe? -- Rebecca Cran On 4/4/2023 12:29 PM, Kinney, Michael D wrote: > Add GCC and leave GCC5 for now and give time for all downstream > consumers to accommodate the name change. > > At a later date, remove GCC5. > > We have seen significant downstream issues on name changes in the > past. Splitting into 2 different patch series allows downstream > to merge in the change that adds the new name. Give time to update > all dependencies to use the new name, and then at a later date > remove the old name. > > This is a common practice to announce deprecation and support > new and old for a period of time. > > Mike > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rebecca Cran >> Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 11:04 AM >> To: Pedro Falcato ; Kinney, Michael D >> Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io; Leif Lindholm ; Gao, Liming ; Oliver Smith- >> Denny ; Jiang, Guomin ; Lu, Xiaoyu1 ; Wang, Jian J >> ; Yao, Jiewen ; Ard Biesheuvel ; Justen, Jordan L >> ; Gerd Hoffmann ; Feng, Bob C ; Andrew Fish >> >> Subject: Re: 回复: 回复: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 00/13] BaseTools,CryptoPkg,MdePkg,OvmfPkg: Delete >> CLANG35,CLANG38,GCC48,GCC49, rename GCC5 to GCC, update CLANGDWARF, delete VS 2008-2013, EBC >> >> >> On 4/4/23 11:57 AM, Pedro Falcato wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 6:52 PM Kinney, Michael D >>> wrote: >>>> I see value in adding a new name. >>>> >>>> I see no value in a non-backwards compatible change to delete/rename a fully supported one. >>> As Leif said, you reduce all sorts of possible confusion. >>> >>> VS2013 builds only for Visual Studio 2013 tools, VS2017 does the same >>> for 2017, GCC5 meanwhile builds on anything from (probably GCC 4.x, >>> since LTO, 2011) to GCC 13 (to be released soon, 2023). >>> >>> Surely downstreams can adapt to *this one cosmetic change* that >>> changes no behavior. >> Nope, GCC5 currently only builds on GCC _6_ and newer, since we don't >> specify -std=c++11. Which makes this discussion even more ridiculous IMO. >> >> >> -- >> Rebecca Cran