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From: "Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: devel@edk2.groups.io, ardb@kernel.org
Cc: Doug Flick <dougflick@microsoft.com>,
	 Jiewen Yao <jiewen.yao@intel.com>,
	"Liming Gao (Byosoft address)" <gaoliming@byosoft.com.cn>
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] 回复: [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 03/13] OvmfPkg:PlatformCI: Support virtio-rng-pci
Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 11:48:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <iylbzap5aqr7rroylrt6jzxmweyax3tbcd3f6g6yer2xgc7fop@djscxda52iue> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXH-L0e8m7N1pFdgSdGuQj4NaTr4g29D4ZhCXtjQyG_jCA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 09:27:53AM GMT, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On Fri, 17 May 2024 at 05:27, Doug Flick via groups.io
> <dougflick=microsoft.com@groups.io> wrote:
> >
> > On ARM, we can actually do better than this: I have taken Doug's v2 and applied some changes on top to make it work with ArmVirtQemu.
> >
> > https://github.com/ardbiesheuvel/edk2/tree/doug-v2
> >
> > Ard, would you be comfortable with this patch series if I take the commits you're suggesting? I'm being asked to see what it would take to get these commits in for this release.
> 
> I won't object to that, but I'd like Gerd's take as well, given that a
> similar concern appears to apply to OVMF/x86 IIUC.

I think including RngDxe in OvmfPkg is not an option.  That would
be a silent regression on the random number quality delivered by
EFI_RNG_PROTOCOL because OvmfPkg uses BaseRngLibTimerLib.

Switching to BaseRngLib is an easy way out for physical platforms
with a sufficient recent processor.  OVMF can not assume the rdrand
instruction is available, so that is not possible.

So short-term (i.e. 2024-05 stable tag) the only option I see is
depending on virtio-rng.  Which is a regression too (network booting
without '-device virtio-rng-pci' breaks), but it is an obvious failure
with an easy fix.  Not an ideal solution, but much better than a
regression which can easily go unnoticed.

Longer term it probably makes sense to have a EFI_RNG_PROTOCOL driver
using the rdrand instruction and runtime detection whenever the
instruction is available or not.  Either by adapting RngDxe accordingly,
or by having an OVMF-specific driver handling the runtime detection.

take care,
  Gerd



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  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-17  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-09  5:56 [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 00/13] NetworkPkg: CVE-2023-45236 and CVE-2023-45237 Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-09  5:56 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 01/13] EmulatorPkg: : Add RngDxe to EmulatorPkg Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-10  3:10   ` Ni, Ray
2024-05-09  5:56 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 02/13] EmulatorPkg: : Add Hash2DxeCrypto " Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-09  5:56 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 03/13] OvmfPkg:PlatformCI: Support virtio-rng-pci Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-09  8:45   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-05-09  8:45     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-05-09 18:21     ` Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-10  0:54       ` 回复: " gaoliming via groups.io
2024-05-10 17:13         ` [edk2-devel] " Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-11  8:40           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-05-13  9:22             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2024-05-13 17:24               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-05-17  3:27                 ` Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-17  7:27                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-05-17  9:48                     ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2024-05-24  3:02                       ` 回复: " gaoliming via groups.io
2024-05-14 19:55               ` Pedro Falcato
2024-05-09  5:56 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 04/13] OvmfPkg: : Add Hash2DxeCrypto to OvmfPkg Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-09  5:56 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 05/13] ArmVirtPkg:PlatformCI: Support virtio-rng-pci Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-09  5:56 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 06/13] ArmVirtPkg: : Add Hash2DxeCrypto to ArmVirtPkg Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-09  5:56 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 07/13] SecurityPkg: RngDxe: Remove incorrect limitation on GetRng Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-10 10:23   ` Yao, Jiewen
2024-05-10 21:12     ` Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-11  0:24       ` Yao, Jiewen
2024-05-13 15:53         ` PierreGondois
2024-05-11  8:26   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-05-09  5:56 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 08/13] NetworkPkg:: SECURITY PATCH CVE-2023-45237 Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-13 14:30   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-05-15 19:14   ` Saloni Kasbekar
2024-05-09  5:56 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 09/13] NetworkPkg: TcpDxe: SECURITY PATCH CVE-2023-45236 Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-15 21:38   ` Saloni Kasbekar
2024-05-21 19:28     ` Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-24  1:24       ` 回复: " gaoliming via groups.io
2024-05-24  4:23         ` Saloni Kasbekar
2024-05-09  5:56 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 10/13] MdePkg: : Add MockUefiBootServicesTableLib Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-09  5:56 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 11/13] MdePkg: : Adds Protocol for MockRng Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-09  5:56 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 12/13] MdePkg: Add MockHash2 Protocol for testing Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-09  5:56 ` [edk2-devel] [PATCH v2 13/13] NetworkPkg: Update the PxeBcDhcp6GoogleTest due to underlying changes Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-24  4:24   ` Saloni Kasbekar
2024-05-09  9:40 ` 回复: [edk2-devel][edk2-stable202405] [PATCH v2 00/13] NetworkPkg: CVE-2023-45236 and CVE-2023-45237 gaoliming via groups.io
2024-05-09 18:26   ` [edk2-devel] " Doug Flick via groups.io
2024-05-15  0:41     ` 回复: " gaoliming via groups.io

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